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The Life Stages of a Stock Photographer
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varius


Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 5593
Location: Bietigheim - Bissingen, Germany

Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:47 pm     Reply with quote

Thankfully most don't make it past #4.
triceratops


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 7875
Location: The other Nevada

Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:33 pm     Reply with quote

varius wrote:
Thankfully most don't make it past #4.


And half of those remaining don't get past #6.
felix_casio


Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1774
Location: www.felixtm.com

Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:52 pm     Reply with quote

story of my life.
jeffbanke


Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17468
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California

Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:30 pm     Reply with quote

dmg wrote:
I think I've passed #18
-approved at SS at the first attempt
-submitted lots of crap that was accepted and even sold once or twice
-removed most of the crap that did not sell or did sell but was not to my taste
-sold 10000+ of above
-earned enough to buy a few new cameras and lenses but recently started to think if all that microstock is really for me and decided not to buy any photo gear at all
-after 50+ years of taking photos realized that I have no talent at all, never won any contest, photography is a very tough, mostly physical work, no one likes my .... so there is no chance to ever sell my photo for 5 million $
-removed almost all of the .... from all other agencies as they were not really selling as much as SS sells and they started to lower their pays to submitter
-deciced to sell all that heavy gear and buy a nice, little camera just in case I want to take some snapshots
....


LOL!
This is similar to my experience :-)

1. Signed up at SS, studied the forums for about 6 months before submitting
2. Checked top 50 daily
3. Submitted and accepted the first time on SS and every other micro and macro
4. Submitted less than stellar stuff, some of which also sold, and questionably still sells
5. Bought several new cameras, lens,
Bought tons of studio lighting, flashes
6. Uploaded steadily, saw sales increase
7. Started helping others get accepted on the forums
8. Got 5000 images accepted here and elsewhere
9. Started lengthy threads teaching people how to do stuff in Photoshop
10. Realized that I spent way too much time on the forums, and that my other photography business was suffering for it, but arrived at that conclusion too late
11. Focused on my other photography business more, and did not feed the beast, saw micro sales go down
12. Now in panic mode, all Photo business going down due to my lack of attention, so seeking other revenue streams, which only leads to diluting my time even more
13. Realize that I enjoy helping others more than making money, and that as I have a wife that keeps me in the life style I am accustomed, all is good in the world, learn to relax
14. Other photographic and teaching opportunities come my way due to this more relaxed attitude
15. Micro sales remain steady, but flat, still providing a monthly revenue stream, soon to buy another lens
16. Ponder over a line from a movie "Frankly I don't give a damn Scarlet" :-)
geoffwnz


Joined: 10 Feb 2012
Posts: 174
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:02 pm     Reply with quote

I've done 1, 2 & 3, skipped 4 and 5, jumped into the middle of 6, bypassing the applying at SS part. So just posting on the forum and getting destroyed. :-p
northumbria


Joined: 26 Mar 2011
Posts: 496
Location: The Netherlands (Europe)

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:53 am     Reply with quote

jatrax wrote:
I have reached stage 17 and determined to my satisfaction I have no talent as a photographer. However, based on the comments here perhaps I have a chance at a new career as a writer of sarcastic commentary.


Those who are considerate, have humour, and take care about light should be considered having talent. Portraits maybe? If not, replace David Letterman?
jatrax


Joined: 07 May 2011
Posts: 242
Location: Pacific Northwest

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:09 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
I disagree. Your port is strong man,Clean and clear .Your lighting is very good and I would be very happy to have some of those.Quality,correct lighting and credibility Trumps Quantity.Great thread, Thanks.

Wow, thanks Laurin. I'm going to print that out so I can read it whenever I get depressed.

When I get too enthusiastic I'll dig up what you said about the first few I posted in the critique forum. LOL
rinder99


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39264
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder

Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:08 pm     Reply with quote

jatrax wrote:
rinder99 wrote:
I disagree. Your port is strong man,Clean and clear .Your lighting is very good and I would be very happy to have some of those.Quality,correct lighting and credibility Trumps Quantity.Great thread, Thanks.

Wow, thanks Laurin. I'm going to print that out so I can read it whenever I get depressed.

When I get too enthusiastic I'll dig up what you said about the first few I posted in the critique forum. LOL


I remember.
mcfields


Joined: 07 Aug 2007
Posts: 1870

Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:20 pm     Reply with quote

interesting thread...love the sarcasm and humor...although I can't personally relate to your experience at all. I came at micro stock from a totally different angle having been an established photographer for years (enjoyed selling some of my work and experienced the thrill of having images published,...being part of a 'traditional' stock site, being ecstatic with winning hundreds of those "photos of the day" buttons on various online sites as well as numerous other prizes) before finally and reluctantly deciding to try microstock - even though I was (and still am) extremely opposed to the concept of selling our quality images at such ridiculously low prices!

Got accepted on my first try and dls started coming in regularly from day one. (a few of my first images still sell regularly.) I was thrilled to have an image chosen for the New Artists lightbox in that first month (Aug.07) and even had my first EL just 2 weeks after joining. I think it was that EL that hooked me. =) Even though I'd had the privilege of selling some of my prints for a few hundred dollars, the idea that someone would choose my image from such a large library with all the competition was addicting. Checking the stats was addicting... uploading was addicting... the forums used to be addicting... I loved it! I managed to pass $100 that first month (even with joining on the 8th of the month) I've continued to shoot daily and upload regularly. slow...and steadily building my portfolio... My perfectionism is a bit of a curse as it's taken me several years now to reach almost 1200 images. My theory has always been that quality far outweighs quantity and so far... so good. ;)

I tried uploading to a few other sites but didn't like the terms, etc. and eventually decided to stick with SS only. I do have a few images elsewhere but haven't uploaded in a couple of years. Shutterstock has been a wonderful experience and I'm grateful to have had the opportunity to be a contributor here. I've been lucky enough to have images selected from time to time for the front page rotation and for the lightboxes and each time it's an absolute thrill! I hadn't gotten into a lightbox for quite some time but do currently have a four leaf clover showing there and it's still just as exciting to have an image selected. I do miss the monthly contest that was here when I started as I enjoyed the challenge of shooting a specific topic and then the rewards of having images in that designated lightbox...but I can understand how it would have been impossible to continue that with the exponential growth in the number of contributors.

It's been a good ride so far - although, sadly, with the changes in the searches, the introduction of the Relevant search and the fact that new images no longer get immediate sales, the bugs and glitches, the lack of participation in the forums, the slow response time from support, the stock sites being over saturated in general, and the slowing of sales increase percentages, ...it may be that the ride will be over soon. At this point I'm just grateful for every download (and EL!!!) that I get and just hopes it continues for a while longer!

...oh... and I still miss film!!! Most of my best work was done of animals while shooting for the Cincinnati Zoo for a few years and ironically, I don't have any animals in my stock portfolio because I couldn't justify investing in a high quality film scanner for stock... maybe someday ;)

...just a different perspective...
rinder99


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39264
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder

Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:01 pm     Reply with quote

Great Piece.Ditto on a lot of stuff.And i always use your and sandras Port as a shining example of the best of the best.
mcfields


Joined: 07 Aug 2007
Posts: 1870

Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:45 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks, Laurin!

I forgot to add what a nice bonus it was to be invited early on to join the bridge program to Bigstock =)
gotta love that!
semmickphoto


Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 6544
Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place

Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:07 am     Reply with quote

I am going to quit, after reading this depressing summary of stock photography. ROFL!! ;-)
monet


Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 347
Location: australia

Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:35 pm     Reply with quote

I think the story was different for people who joined 5-7 years earlier. My story is;
1. Discovered Shutterstock purely by chance while googling for something.
2. uploaded some photos (straight from my point and shoot)not expecting anything at all.
3. Next morning discovered that 3 of my photos were approved and already had some downloads. Couldn't believe my eyes.
4. Took more photos, uploaded.
5. Visited forums, started learning more. visited top 50
6. Started learning photoshop.
7. Bought a DSLR.
8.carried my DSLR everywhere with me, shooting everything, photoshopping everything and uploading.
9. Noticed that vectors sell quite well, started doing vectors.
10. Started discovering my photos in newspapers, websites, hoardings.
11. Did a studio shoot with a professional model. Didn't pay off.
12. Something changed. New uploads were not selling much.
13. Lost interest. Haven't uploaded many photos or vectors since last 2 years.
robhainer


Joined: 03 May 2010
Posts: 2772
Location: Dallas, GA, USA

Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:54 pm     Reply with quote

kellyplz wrote:
"-removed most of the crap that did not sell or did sell but was not to my taste."

I've had EL's several times on pics that had never sold or only sold once or twice. ;)


Same. It's crazy having a photo sit there and not sell, and you think it's not that great, then someone pays $100 for it.
bhaslam


Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 156
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:12 am     Reply with quote

Great post. I haven't been on the forums for months and picked back up the other day. Glad I did for this post. Loved it.

Changing jobs and with three boys I haven't posted anything new in months and payouts have better than expected. Then again I don't expect much out of my tiny portfolio.
 
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