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sammyspectacula


Joined: 17 Mar 2012
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:06 pm     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
one button click with Corel PaintShop Pro X4

Gives a more realistic look to me. Snow is not all white (even to the naked eye) and often has a blue hue to it


yeah i actually like that better that helps a lot in showing me what works and doesn't work when editing I have Adobe Photoshop elements 9
hhltdave5


Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:25 pm     Reply with quote

sammyspectacula wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
I would also think about another shot to do. This type of shot has been done over and over again for many, many years.

As I have said before I would try some other types of shots and avoid doing the isolations until you get the right equipment or the technique down pat. Doing an isolation with something else that is white in the image makes it even harder to do properly.

Pick something that you can do in a more natural setting. Do some type of spice on a cutting board. Do some type of tool shot on a workbench or something that resembles that. Some gardening equipment and so on.

By all means continue to work on the right technique for isolations or on whites but lets see what else you can do with product type shots or with people for that matter.


thanks for the comment, I did this photo back in 2010 around christmas I've much improved sense then with still life objects I just wanted to know different thoughts on how people felt about more of my older stuff but an example of how i've improved would be something like these two one in still life and one in people.


Watch your exposure and learn to really "see" the light. Notice the heavy shadows on the shot with the girl holding onto the cliff? Many times with outdoor shots you will need a reflector or fill flash. To me light is the most important thing about photography. Without it there would be no photography and that is why we say "shoot the light." It is all about how the light interacts and plays on the object of the shot.

Becoming good at photography requires an understanding of the principles of photography such as exposure, lighting, composition, focus, proper use of depth of field and putting all of these together into an outstanding image.
jeffbanke


Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17468
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:29 pm     Reply with quote

sammyspectacula wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
White balance is off should be closer to this

Uneven lighting left is one color, right is another, plus shadows

subject too small in frame


the idea was to actually see snow in this picture the way you edited it makes it look blindingly bright


Wow, I could not even see the snow except the stuff attached to candy, hence my converting it into an isolation. NOne the less your white balance and lighting was poor due to the yellow hue on the right and the blue hue on the left, plus the candy canes themselves look sickly yellow not white as they should be.
sammyspectacula


Joined: 17 Mar 2012
Posts: 13

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:29 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
sammyspectacula wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
I would also think about another shot to do. This type of shot has been done over and over again for many, many years.

As I have said before I would try some other types of shots and avoid doing the isolations until you get the right equipment or the technique down pat. Doing an isolation with something else that is white in the image makes it even harder to do properly.

Pick something that you can do in a more natural setting. Do some type of spice on a cutting board. Do some type of tool shot on a workbench or something that resembles that. Some gardening equipment and so on.

By all means continue to work on the right technique for isolations or on whites but lets see what else you can do with product type shots or with people for that matter.


thanks for the comment, I did this photo back in 2010 around christmas I've much improved sense then with still life objects I just wanted to know different thoughts on how people felt about more of my older stuff but an example of how i've improved would be something like these two one in still life and one in people.


Watch your exposure and learn to really "see" the light. Notice the heavy shadows on the shot with the girl holding onto the cliff? Many times with outdoor shots you will need a reflector or fill flash. To me light is the most important thing about photography. Without it there would be no photography and that is why we say "shoot the light." It is all about how the light interacts and plays on the object of the shot.

Becoming good at photography requires an understanding of the principles of photography such as exposure, lighting, composition, focus, proper use of depth of field and putting all of these together into an outstanding image.


I understand I have tons to learn and I'm having a blast in the process just takes a lot to learn. I do it all on my own don't go to classes because there aren't really any where I live except at this private college that costs a lot to get into. So I just continue to do what I do and get better little by little.
sammyspectacula


Joined: 17 Mar 2012
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:32 pm     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
sammyspectacula wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
White balance is off should be closer to this

Uneven lighting left is one color, right is another, plus shadows

subject too small in frame


the idea was to actually see snow in this picture the way you edited it makes it look blindingly bright


Wow, I could not even see the snow except the stuff attached to candy, hence my converting it into an isolation. NOne the less your white balance and lighting was poor due to the yellow hue on the right and the blue hue on the left, plus the candy canes themselves look sickly yellow not white as they should be.


has a lot to do with monitors probably why you didn't see the snow and some did, snow shows on my computer. where i have a laptop sometimes I have to flip the screen back and forth to see what I'm looking at in detail. but none the less I appreciate the comment you left it helped me learn different ways to edit
jeffbanke


Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17468
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:45 pm     Reply with quote

sammyspectacula wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
sammyspectacula wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
White balance is off should be closer to this

Uneven lighting left is one color, right is another, plus shadows

subject too small in frame


the idea was to actually see snow in this picture the way you edited it makes it look blindingly bright


Wow, I could not even see the snow except the stuff attached to candy, hence my converting it into an isolation. NOne the less your white balance and lighting was poor due to the yellow hue on the right and the blue hue on the left, plus the candy canes themselves look sickly yellow not white as they should be.


has a lot to do with monitors probably why you didn't see the snow and some did, snow shows on my computer. where i have a laptop sometimes I have to flip the screen back and forth to see what I'm looking at in detail. but none the less I appreciate the comment you left it helped me learn different ways to edit


My Pleasure.

I don't trust laptop screens for that very reason, (and other reasons), they are not setup correctly and more difficult to correct than a desk top monitor.
I run my desktops with two monitors, even my iMac has a second monitor, I am a bit anal about making sure monitors are setup correctly (that is what happens to one when one has been processing electronic images since the 1970's). :-)
I have both a Windows 7 computer (desktop with 2 monitors) and my iMac 2 monitors, so that I can be 100% sure about critiquing both my images and others.

Keep shooting, let us see more in the future
sammyspectacula


Joined: 17 Mar 2012
Posts: 13

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:50 pm     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
sammyspectacula wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
sammyspectacula wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
White balance is off should be closer to this

Uneven lighting left is one color, right is another, plus shadows

subject too small in frame


the idea was to actually see snow in this picture the way you edited it makes it look blindingly bright


Wow, I could not even see the snow except the stuff attached to candy, hence my converting it into an isolation. NOne the less your white balance and lighting was poor due to the yellow hue on the right and the blue hue on the left, plus the candy canes themselves look sickly yellow not white as they should be.


has a lot to do with monitors probably why you didn't see the snow and some did, snow shows on my computer. where i have a laptop sometimes I have to flip the screen back and forth to see what I'm looking at in detail. but none the less I appreciate the comment you left it helped me learn different ways to edit


My Pleasure.

I don't trust laptop screens for that very reason, (and other reasons), they are not setup correctly and more difficult to correct than a desk top monitor.
I run my desktops with two monitors, even my iMac has a second monitor, I am a bit anal about making sure monitors are setup correctly (that is what happens to one when one has been processing electronic images since the 1970's). :-)
I have both a Windows 7 computer (desktop with 2 monitors) and my iMac 2 monitors, so that I can be 100% sure about critiquing both my images and others.

Keep shooting, let us see more in the future


I agree with you but seeing as I can only afford buying a Toshiba laptop for $60 off my brother with the charge connection hanging barley by a thread it's better than nothing. I'm 22 years old have very little money to get my own stuff so I try to make best with the equipment I do have. Every year I get a new piece of Photography equipment from my parents so I get a new gadget once every year.I certainly will post more of my images here for all to see and discuss about thanks for taking the time to comment.
rinder99


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:57 pm     Reply with quote

I thought it was yellow Styrofoam.ya know why they say about yellow snow don't ya.And if ya can't get the colors right because of your monitor, You may be in for a long ride.
pinkcandy


Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Posts: 249
Location: I'm still looking for the good one

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:18 pm     Reply with quote

Don't eat the yellow snow.....:)
Frank Zappa!
sammyspectacula


Joined: 17 Mar 2012
Posts: 13

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:35 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
I thought it was yellow Styrofoam.ya know why they say about yellow snow don't ya.And if ya can't get the colors right because of your monitor, You may be in for a long ride.


I in fact can get the colors right this is an old image i did back in 2010 and I've significantly improved sense then. I just wanted opinions on my old images to newest
sammyspectacula


Joined: 17 Mar 2012
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:36 pm     Reply with quote

pinkcandy wrote:
Don't eat the yellow snow.....:)
Frank Zappa!


on my computer the snow shows up more grayish than yellow.
 
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