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ladyjulian


Joined: 06 Apr 2012
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:33 am     Reply with quote

Lightroom is not letting me zoom to 100% AND crop at the same time. When I try to crop, the picture snaps back to full size.

I've attached a smaller-than-500 pixels crop I did on Third Light for now, then I'm off to check my Lightroom Help file to see what I'm missing regarding 100% crops.

Thanks for the tip re. noise. Usually noise looks "colorful" to me (lots of colors on the black), not just pixelated, so I guess I'm just learning something new.

OK, here's the photo. I'm gonna go read Lightroom Help.



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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:00 am     Reply with quote

Dont use lightroom to crop, its a ligthroom not a full blown photo editor, use a photoshop
ladyjulian


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:11 am     Reply with quote

*Sigh . . .

Okay, thanks, I'll look into a photoshop.
jhuls


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:13 am     Reply with quote

This is not pixels it is noise and artifacts. If you have shot with a lot of noise and then use noise reduction software this is what you will get.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:20 am     Reply with quote

ladyjulian wrote:
*Sigh . . .

Okay, thanks, I'll look into a photoshop.


Before you go out and spend $600 on photoshop you need to first determine your needs. You can get Elements which is like Photoshops little brother but you will get just about everything you will ever need to edit images. It will cost about $120.00.

You can also go the route of using Gimp which is a free program and will allow you to crop and do general editing as well.
dambuster


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:22 am     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
Dont use lightroom to crop, its a ligthroom not a full blown photo editor, use a photoshop


There is absolutely nothing wrong with lightroom for cropping, whatsoever, its actually very good. I'm sure there are lots of people here that use it successfully. Sure photoshop is great if you wanna mess about with your pictures and add stuff, take stuff away, sky's etc etc, but if you have a decent photograph to start with, made in camera, in my very humble opinion Lightroom is all you need. Plus it's a boatload cheaper than full blown photoshop.
Lady Julian, Scott Kelby has produced a fabulous book for lightroom, full of tips, tricks, and how to use it properly, I bought it and learned a lot, I probably don't even use 10% of what it is capable of ( maybe I should )
In a nutshell, if your photo's are good, lightroom should suit you fine.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:27 am     Reply with quote

Thats noise and a lot of it.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:50 am     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
Thats noise and a lot of it.


I agree, and it looks like some sharpening has been added in the camera probably? Is it a JPG, if so check the camera settings?
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 am     Reply with quote

dambuster wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
Dont use lightroom to crop, its a ligthroom not a full blown photo editor, use a photoshop


There is absolutely nothing wrong with lightroom for cropping, whatsoever, its actually very good. I'm sure there are lots of people here that use it successfully. Sure photoshop is great if you wanna mess about with your pictures and add stuff, take stuff away, sky's etc etc, but if you have a decent photograph to start with, made in camera, in my very humble opinion Lightroom is all you need. Plus it's a boatload cheaper than full blown photoshop.
Lady Julian, Scott Kelby has produced a fabulous book for lightroom, full of tips, tricks, and how to use it properly, I bought it and learned a lot, I probably don't even use 10% of what it is capable of ( maybe I should )
In a nutshell, if your photo's are good, lightroom should suit you fine.


Scott Kelby also on a recent webcast stated that Lightroom was created for photographers and is better than BRIDGE (he does not like bridge at all), personally I do like Bridge, and can see no place in my workflow for Lightroom, but it has adopted more an more features from PS, to the point it is really all one needs IF one does not have to do any layering. It is much like ACR in that all the tweaks are non-destructive and essentially do not change the original file. Like ACR it opens JPG's and allows non-destructive changes to them, until one saves as a new file, if one saves back to the original file, then of course the changes become destructive.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:10 am     Reply with quote

dambuster wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
Dont use lightroom to crop, its a ligthroom not a full blown photo editor, use a photoshop


There is absolutely nothing wrong with lightroom for cropping, whatsoever, its actually very good. I'm sure there are lots of people here that use it successfully. Sure photoshop is great if you wanna mess about with your pictures and add stuff, take stuff away, sky's etc etc, but if you have a decent photograph to start with, made in camera, in my very humble opinion Lightroom is all you need. Plus it's a boatload cheaper than full blown photoshop.
Lady Julian, Scott Kelby has produced a fabulous book for lightroom, full of tips, tricks, and how to use it properly, I bought it and learned a lot, I probably don't even use 10% of what it is capable of ( maybe I should )
In a nutshell, if your photo's are good, lightroom should suit you fine.
Do a 100% crop for me in lightroom please? Because I cant find that feature. You can crop the photo but you cant crop at 100% zoom
ch4x4


Joined: 02 Jun 2011
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:49 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
dambuster wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
Dont use lightroom to crop, its a ligthroom not a full blown photo editor, use a photoshop


There is absolutely nothing wrong with lightroom for cropping, whatsoever, its actually very good. I'm sure there are lots of people here that use it successfully. Sure photoshop is great if you wanna mess about with your pictures and add stuff, take stuff away, sky's etc etc, but if you have a decent photograph to start with, made in camera, in my very humble opinion Lightroom is all you need. Plus it's a boatload cheaper than full blown photoshop.
Lady Julian, Scott Kelby has produced a fabulous book for lightroom, full of tips, tricks, and how to use it properly, I bought it and learned a lot, I probably don't even use 10% of what it is capable of ( maybe I should )
In a nutshell, if your photo's are good, lightroom should suit you fine.
Do a 100% crop for me in lightroom please? Because I cant find that feature. You can crop the photo but you cant crop at 100% zoom


You don't have to zoom in at 100% to do your crop. If you crop 500 pixels from the image, it doesn't matter if you are viewing it at 25%, 50%, 100% or 300%, you will always get the same 500 pixels from the image. What you are cropping is the image in memory that does NOT change size no matter at what zoom you're looking at it.
You can check this previous thread for more details: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117298
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:58 pm     Reply with quote

ch4x4 wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
dambuster wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
Dont use lightroom to crop, its a ligthroom not a full blown photo editor, use a photoshop


There is absolutely nothing wrong with lightroom for cropping, whatsoever, its actually very good. I'm sure there are lots of people here that use it successfully. Sure photoshop is great if you wanna mess about with your pictures and add stuff, take stuff away, sky's etc etc, but if you have a decent photograph to start with, made in camera, in my very humble opinion Lightroom is all you need. Plus it's a boatload cheaper than full blown photoshop.
Lady Julian, Scott Kelby has produced a fabulous book for lightroom, full of tips, tricks, and how to use it properly, I bought it and learned a lot, I probably don't even use 10% of what it is capable of ( maybe I should )
In a nutshell, if your photo's are good, lightroom should suit you fine.
Do a 100% crop for me in lightroom please? Because I cant find that feature. You can crop the photo but you cant crop at 100% zoom


You don't have to zoom in at 100% to do your crop. If you crop 500 pixels from the image, it doesn't matter if you are viewing it at 25%, 50%, 100% or 300%, you will always get the same 500 pixels from the image. What you are cropping is the image in memory that does NOT change size no matter at what zoom you're looking at it.
You can check this previous thread for more details: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117298


I dont want to hijack this thread but I know how to do a 100% crop. And ligtroom doesnt tell you how big your crop frame is, there is no pixel count showing. So you have to guess.

And you still cant use the crop tool at 100% zoom because it will reset back to fit the screen.
greenfield54


Joined: 21 Jun 2009
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:17 pm     Reply with quote

ladyjulian wrote:
*Sigh . . .

Okay, thanks, I'll look into a photoshop.


I believe you can download the 30 day trial version of PS.
jhuls


Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Posts: 1046

Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:24 pm     Reply with quote

I use photoshop elements 10 and I believe it has almost everything most photographers need to edit their photos. Every once and awhile I run across something I wish I had, but most people don't do as much manipulating and combining images as I do so you wouldn't use half the stuff I use anyway. I got it on a Christmas special for around $50 but I think you can get it for around $75 to $100 regularly.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:37 pm     Reply with quote

If you have a child in School you can get the student discount on all PS programs.
 
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