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copidosoma


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:51 pm     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
I have never seen a wildlife photographer that is worth their salt running around the bush using an EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III.


Although a wildlife photog worth their salt would likely still get great shots with the 75-300.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:02 pm     Reply with quote

Where did that phrase come from "Worth his salt"?
I suspect it was something to do with rationing of salt among sailors?
robhainer


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:04 pm     Reply with quote

copidosoma wrote:
cpaulfell wrote:
I have never seen a wildlife photographer that is worth their salt running around the bush using an EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III.


Although a wildlife photog worth their salt would likely still get great shots with the 75-300.


You can get good shots if you have good light. That's really what it's all about. Good low, direct light that lets you shoot with a smaller aperture at a good shutter speed. I use my Nikon 70-300 all the time; it's a fine lens as long as you use it within its limits.
greenfield54


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:05 pm     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
copidosoma wrote:
Laurin often mentions that wildlife is one of the most expensive (and difficult) forms of photography.
That is however my where my heart lies (which you can probably tell from my port) and is what I am eventually going to end up doing when I retire.


Then it's probably a wise move to sell the motorcycle to fund a better lens. Anyway, you won't have the stamina to ride at 65. But I can agree. Wildlife photography can be very relaxing and frustrating at the same time. That's why I know of people who slow down and prepare for the shoot. Some even set up blinds so as not to spook the creatures and to get close. Things that even hunters with shotguns do while bid hunting. :)
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 pm     Reply with quote

copidosoma wrote:
Although a wildlife photog worth their salt would likely still get great shots with the 75-300.
Ha! that must be me then :)
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:07 pm     Reply with quote

greenfield54 wrote:
cpaulfell wrote:
copidosoma wrote:
Laurin often mentions that wildlife is one of the most expensive (and difficult) forms of photography.
That is however my where my heart lies (which you can probably tell from my port) and is what I am eventually going to end up doing when I retire.


Then it's probably a wise move to sell the motorcycle to fund a better lens. Anyway, you won't have the stamina to ride at 65. But I can agree. Wildlife photography can be very relaxing and frustrating at the same time. That's why I know of people who slow down and prepare for the shoot. Some even set up blinds so as not to spook the creatures and to get close. Things that even hunters with shotguns do while bid hunting. :)


Yep look like these, and we even use decoys, and call the birds in :-)
greenfield54


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:09 pm     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
Where did that phrase come from "Worth his salt"?
I suspect it was something to do with rationing of salt among sailors?


I believe salt used to be a rare commodity and was given as salary to roman soldiers. You don't have to ration salt to sailors since the sea is full of it. More like the saying in one writing "Water, water everywhere and not a drop to drink.". ;)
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:10 pm     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
Where did that phrase come from "Worth his salt"?
It stems from Roman times. Roman soldiers were expected to buy their own food, weapons etc. An allowance was given to them for this purpose. In those days salt was considered very valuable, just as it still is in many societies, and a Roman soldier worth his pay was in essence "worth his salt".
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:10 pm     Reply with quote

SNAP! :)
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:17 pm     Reply with quote

Dam then i am rich!{:o)
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:26 pm     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
greenfield54 wrote:
cpaulfell wrote:
copidosoma wrote:
Laurin often mentions that wildlife is one of the most expensive (and difficult) forms of photography.
That is however my where my heart lies (which you can probably tell from my port) and is what I am eventually going to end up doing when I retire.


Then it's probably a wise move to sell the motorcycle to fund a better lens. Anyway, you won't have the stamina to ride at 65. But I can agree. Wildlife photography can be very relaxing and frustrating at the same time. That's why I know of people who slow down and prepare for the shoot. Some even set up blinds so as not to spook the creatures and to get close. Things that even hunters with shotguns do while bid hunting. :)


Yep look like these, and we even use decoys, and call the birds in :-)
I think I will probably trade in one of my motorcycles for a lens but i don't think I will ever stop riding.

As for using hides...I prefer to mix it up on foot with them :)



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cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:27 pm     Reply with quote

ruxpriencdiam wrote:
Dam then i am rich!{:o)
SNORT! crusty too I bet :)
copidosoma


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:33 pm     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
greenfield54 wrote:
cpaulfell wrote:
copidosoma wrote:
Laurin often mentions that wildlife is one of the most expensive (and difficult) forms of photography.
That is however my where my heart lies (which you can probably tell from my port) and is what I am eventually going to end up doing when I retire.


Then it's probably a wise move to sell the motorcycle to fund a better lens. Anyway, you won't have the stamina to ride at 65. But I can agree. Wildlife photography can be very relaxing and frustrating at the same time. That's why I know of people who slow down and prepare for the shoot. Some even set up blinds so as not to spook the creatures and to get close. Things that even hunters with shotguns do while bid hunting. :)


Yep look like these, and we even use decoys, and call the birds in :-)
I think I will probably trade in one of my motorcycles for a lens but i don't think I will ever stop riding.

As for using hides...I prefer to mix it up on foot with them :)


a 70-200 would likely be fine at that range. No TC needed. ;)
pipedreamer


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:07 pm     Reply with quote

Even the word 'salary' is a derivative of 'salt'. Both originally from Latin, of course.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:27 pm     Reply with quote

I like to mix it up on foot with as well, the Red Deer in NZ was on foot as was the bear and these


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