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cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:20 pm     Reply with quote

In a shot like this something is always going to look out-of-plane/skew/not level.

What should be held level...the river/river bank or the bridge?



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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:32 pm     Reply with quote

Just set the camera on the tripod level and shoot it.
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:50 pm     Reply with quote

I say the river/river bank. The horizon is your constant not the bridge. Bridges can be built going in almost any direction but the horizon needs to appear to be as flat as the world was in 1491. If you do as Barry pointed out the river/river bank will most likely be level.
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:53 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:28 pm     Reply with quote

mikenorton wrote:
I say the river/river bank. The horizon is your constant not the bridge. Bridges can be built going in almost any direction but the horizon needs to appear to be as flat as the world was in 1491. If you do as Barry pointed out the river/river bank will most likely be level.


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dhogan


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:50 pm     Reply with quote

Is that The Sauk River?
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:04 pm     Reply with quote

dhogan wrote:
Is that The Sauk River?
I think it is the Skykomish?


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dhogan


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:27 pm     Reply with quote

Yes, that's The Skykomish up near Gold Bar. Beautiful country. You should take a drive up Hwy 20 -- The North Cascades Highway -- and see The Skagit and Sauk Rivers.
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:30 pm     Reply with quote

That is on my agenda for this summer. This will be my first summer home since 2006 and I am going to do the trip on two wheels.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:56 am     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
That is on my agenda for this summer. This will be my first summer home since 2006 and I am going to do the trip on two wheels.

Man, that sounds tough. I've seen stunt drivers drive a car on two wheels, but only for a lap around a track. I can't imagine driving through the mountains like that. Have you been practicing so you'll be ready by the summer?

Oh wait, maybe you meant on a motorcycle. Nevermind.

Enjoy the trip anyway!
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:00 am     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
In a shot like this something is always going to look out-of-plane/skew/not level.

What should be held level...the river/river bank or the bridge?


Pillars should be strictly vertical.

You should get your camera lower(if it's not possible get closer with wider lens).
That will show us hidden background landscape below the bridge and move the bridge up to mask awfull sky a little bit.
Try to find some interesting rocks and put them in front of the lens if they are not too heavy. Shooting landscapes is a hard job :)

If you do that in right time of the day you will have excellent foreground (rocks), middleground (bridge) and background (distant landscape under the bridge) with a nice contrast between bridge and the blue sky (off course if you use cpl filter). You almost don't need clouds with that composition :)
wiml


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:49 am     Reply with quote

mikenorton wrote:
I say the river/river bank. The horizon is your constant not the bridge. Bridges can be built going in almost any direction but the horizon needs to appear to be as flat as the world was in 1491. If you do as Barry pointed out the river/river bank will most likely be level.


Who dares to argue with Mike, one of the masters here of nature photography ;)
I would also go for the river bank, on instinct.



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mikenorton


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:08 pm     Reply with quote

wiml wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
I say the river/river bank. The horizon is your constant not the bridge. Bridges can be built going in almost any direction but the horizon needs to appear to be as flat as the world was in 1491. If you do as Barry pointed out the river/river bank will most likely be level.


Who dares to argue with Mike, one of the masters here of nature photography ;)
I would also go for the river bank, on instinct.


Make that landscape photography. To me nature means animals and I don't photograph animals.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:27 pm     Reply with quote

I've shot the Skagit Many times and painted it even more.And one of the best scenes you can shoot or witness in person. From Bellingham, Wash to Idaho. Have fun and shoot everything.
wiml


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:10 am     Reply with quote

mikenorton wrote:
wiml wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
I say the river/river bank. The horizon is your constant not the bridge. Bridges can be built going in almost any direction but the horizon needs to appear to be as flat as the world was in 1491. If you do as Barry pointed out the river/river bank will most likely be level.


Who dares to argue with Mike, one of the masters here of nature photography ;)
I would also go for the river bank, on instinct.


Make that landscape photography. To me nature means animals and I don't photograph animals.


My apologies sir Norton, Landscape Photography it is;)
 
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