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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:52 am
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I'd love to learn I'm afraid I don't have much in the way of equipment though other than my canon 7D. I don't even have any way to edit footage. |
Just doing 15 sec clips, no editing doesn't require much at all. when you start doing stuff like Transistions ,Titles,Music etc,etc thats where it gets scary. I had to Take a 3 week class because I wanted to do Little Personal Films and I do a lot of tutorials and Record workshops and stuff. For stock , Just turn it on and count to 15. If your PC, A good inexpensive Program Like Power Director is great or Windows Movie maker is free and comes with windows. If your Mac, Imovie is free and comes with your machine. I use FinalCut Pro which is a pro application used by Most Movie and TV editors and Very Difficult to learn and runs about a $1,000.Im Learning after Effects and Motion Now. HUGE learning curve. But Like I say just doing simple 15 sec clips is really simple.And your 7D is perfect for that.Anytime you feel your ready Lets set a time to Talk on the phone.I can save ya a lot of time.I made all the mistakes so you don't have to.All ya need is your camera and a tripod. Forget all the other stuff.Just like stills. Simplicity rules and Concept wins and with your daughter and The perfect model. Your there.Anytime girlfriend.. |
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tobkatrina
Joined: 26 Sep 2005
Posts: 1886
Location: Missing NYC terribly :(..........
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:54 am
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| jaykayl wrote: | | rinder99 wrote: | | I don't remember my first love But I do remember my first EL.LOL Congrats and heres to many more and Im Positive they will come for you. I knew the minute of your first post.Now I gotta get you doing Footage. Real money. |
Laurin, what sort of dolly are you using? I was thinking of making one but not sure I'll find the time. Would like to play around with panning time-lapses etc as well.
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You can also use this (very affordable) and for 360 degree movement add on a telescope star tracker (I know sounds crazy) but it's a wonderful set up. I love it!
http://dynamicperception.com/products/stage-zero-6-foot-bundle
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YLJHQA/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details |
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17467
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:19 am
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Doing 15 sec clips is a total no brainer, recording good audio with an SLR is a lot tougher.!
When you get into video's that have upwards of 50 layers, and are 8 mins long, and you are winning awards then you know you have made it into the bigtime.
This is a Gold Telly award I won in 1995, while working for AMPEX, following year while working for Philips (yes the big Dutch company), I won a Silver Telly for another 8 minute video containing the 50 layers segment. Interestingly enough we both on FILM not on VIDEO, 35mm film won the Gold and 16mm film won the silver the next year.
Laurin asked me once, why I didn't get into video here at SS, and it is quite simple, once you have been at the top of the food chain, it is hard to go backwards.
As I said to get to the top it took a Pro 35mm film Camera, a pro lab to digitize it, and some $1,000,000+ of digital video processing equipment and about a weeks work. I just don't feel that there is anything I can do that would satisfy ME with a $3000 SLR that has crappy audio.
When I get back from New Zealand I will try to upload somewhere these two videos, so that you guys can see what it takes to win awards from pro societies.
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tobkatrina
Joined: 26 Sep 2005
Posts: 1886
Location: Missing NYC terribly :(..........
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:50 am
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True Jeff, but audio is not a major factor in stock. In fact the most successful clips have no sound at all. Leave that up to the editors and stock audio/music =) |
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mitgirl
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 1165
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:55 am
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Congratulations! I remember the first EL shock and happiness feeling too :) Wish you many more. |
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canalenes
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Posts: 2205
Location: Orygun
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:58 am
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| jeffbanke wrote: | Doing 15 sec clips is a total no brainer, recording good audio with an SLR is a lot tougher.!
When you get into video's that have upwards of 50 layers, and are 8 mins long, and you are winning awards then you know you have made it into the bigtime.
This is a Gold Telly award I won in 1995, while working for AMPEX, following year while working for Philips (yes the big Dutch company), I won a Silver Telly for another 8 minute video containing the 50 layers segment. Interestingly enough we both on FILM not on VIDEO, 35mm film won the Gold and 16mm film won the silver the next year.
Laurin asked me once, why I didn't get into video here at SS, and it is quite simple, once you have been at the top of the food chain, it is hard to go backwards.
As I said to get to the top it took a Pro 35mm film Camera, a pro lab to digitize it, and some $1,000,000+ of digital video processing equipment and about a weeks work. I just don't feel that there is anything I can do that would satisfy ME with a $3000 SLR that has crappy audio.
When I get back from New Zealand I will try to upload somewhere these two videos, so that you guys can see what it takes to win awards from pro societies.
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Impressive, Jeff! I look forward to seeing your award winners! |
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lmel900
Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Posts: 4956
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:01 pm
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Congratulations, Jenn! It is a great feeling not only for the first EL, but everytime we get one. |
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semmickphoto
Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 6510
Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:09 pm
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| jeffbanke wrote: | | while working for Philips (yes the big Dutch company) |
Funny, I am the Service Implementation Executive at my employer for the Philips account in EMEA. I am Dutch, based in Ireland, working for an US company ;-)
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jhuls
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Posts: 1046
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:10 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: |
Just doing 15 sec clips, no editing doesn't require much at all. when you start doing stuff like Transistions ,Titles,Music etc,etc thats where it gets scary. I had to Take a 3 week class because I wanted to do Little Personal Films and I do a lot of tutorials and Record workshops and stuff. For stock , Just turn it on and count to 15. If your PC, A good inexpensive Program Like Power Director is great or Windows Movie maker is free and comes with windows. If your Mac, Imovie is free and comes with your machine. I use FinalCut Pro which is a pro application used by Most Movie and TV editors and Very Difficult to learn and runs about a $1,000.Im Learning after Effects and Motion Now. HUGE learning curve. But Like I say just doing simple 15 sec clips is really simple.And your 7D is perfect for that.Anytime you feel your ready Lets set a time to Talk on the phone.I can save ya a lot of time.I made all the mistakes so you don't have to.All ya need is your camera and a tripod. Forget all the other stuff.Just like stills. Simplicity rules and Concept wins and with your daughter and The perfect model. Your there.Anytime girlfriend.. |
Okay you have convinced me, my kids have spring break this week and I know you have your big event next week so I'll email you sometime after that and set up a time to talk. But if my home videos that make me motion sick(and I'm not even kidding)to watch are an indication of my skills then I have a long way to go.
Thanks everyone else for the comments, I am already anxiously awaiting my next EL hopefully it wont take another 3 months to get my next one. |
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semmickphoto
Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 6510
Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:12 pm
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A video for stock can easily be done on Windows Movie Makers which is free.
All you need to do is cut the video so you end up with a xx second clip.
If that video from Dave scratching his armpits sells everyday, I am sure there is some money for all of us. LOL |
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17467
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:32 pm
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| tobkatrina wrote: | | True Jeff, but audio is not a major factor in stock. In fact the most successful clips have no sound at all. Leave that up to the editors and stock audio/music =) |
Yes Katrina, that was my point (I think, LOL), it is hard to go backwards giving up that much control.
I guess it was much easier to give it with still images :-)
I almost forgot, and don't want to hiJack this thread, back to Jenn and many congratulations! |
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39226
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:55 pm
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| jhuls wrote: | | rinder99 wrote: |
Just doing 15 sec clips, no editing doesn't require much at all. when you start doing stuff like Transistions ,Titles,Music etc,etc thats where it gets scary. I had to Take a 3 week class because I wanted to do Little Personal Films and I do a lot of tutorials and Record workshops and stuff. For stock , Just turn it on and count to 15. If your PC, A good inexpensive Program Like Power Director is great or Windows Movie maker is free and comes with windows. If your Mac, Imovie is free and comes with your machine. I use FinalCut Pro which is a pro application used by Most Movie and TV editors and Very Difficult to learn and runs about a $1,000.Im Learning after Effects and Motion Now. HUGE learning curve. But Like I say just doing simple 15 sec clips is really simple.And your 7D is perfect for that.Anytime you feel your ready Lets set a time to Talk on the phone.I can save ya a lot of time.I made all the mistakes so you don't have to.All ya need is your camera and a tripod. Forget all the other stuff.Just like stills. Simplicity rules and Concept wins and with your daughter and The perfect model. Your there.Anytime girlfriend.. |
Okay you have convinced me, my kids have spring break this week and I know you have your big event next week so I'll email you sometime after that and set up a time to talk. But if my home videos that make me motion sick(and I'm not even kidding)to watch are an indication of my skills then I have a long way to go.
Thanks everyone else for the comments, I am already anxiously awaiting my next EL hopefully it wont take another 3 months to get my next one. |
Sounds good. |
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17467
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California
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copidosoma
Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Posts: 3789
Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:08 pm
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| semmickphoto wrote: | A video for stock can easily be done on Windows Movie Makers which is free.
All you need to do is cut the video so you end up with a xx second clip.
If that video from Dave scratching his armpits sells everyday, I am sure there is some money for all of us. LOL |
I actually cut the clips "in camera" as my laptop is incapable of handling HD video. |
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ole999
Joined: 06 May 2010
Posts: 58
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
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Yeah - you never know what sells. |
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