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triceratops
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evaners
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:15 pm
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So, they are using other peoples snapshots, lifted without permission from their hard drives, because they "stumbled upon" users of a file sharing program who had misconfigured their profiles. And they claim that it's okay because they didn't "hack" them.
And then, they pull pieces off of other famous pieces of art, and display these pieces as art.
What I love best about this kind of nonsense is the convoluted and twisted way the "curator" rationalizes all this as "art",
The loot from the art-minded crime spree is intended to raise questions about what's private, what's public, and what makes art "art".
"We wanted to create a space where there's room for risk and a room for discussion," she said. "Sometimes if you don't shake those boundaries, you don't create conversation."
What a load of @$#&%#%! I've noticed over the years, that true art rarely needs much explanation. It's only when someone is trying to pawn off manure as art that you get this kind of screwy, art-y, cliche crap; "shake those boundaries", "create conversation", and the all-time classic "what makes art 'art'". The only thing more ridiculous than people like this, is the people who fall for it and are somehow impressed by it. PT Barnum comes to mind. |
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digigandalf
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:54 pm
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| evaners wrote: | So, they are using other peoples snapshots, lifted without permission from their hard drives, because they "stumbled upon" users of a file sharing program who had misconfigured their profiles. And they claim that it's okay because they didn't "hack" them.
And then, they pull pieces off of other famous pieces of art, and display these pieces as art.
What I love best about this kind of nonsense is the convoluted and twisted way the "curator" rationalizes all this as "art",
The loot from the art-minded crime spree is intended to raise questions about what's private, what's public, and what makes art "art".
"We wanted to create a space where there's room for risk and a room for discussion," she said. "Sometimes if you don't shake those boundaries, you don't create conversation."
What a load of @$#&%#%! I've noticed over the years, that true art rarely needs much explanation. It's only when someone is trying to pawn off manure as art that you get this kind of screwy, art-y, cliche crap; "shake those boundaries", "create conversation", and the all-time classic "what makes art 'art'". The only thing more ridiculous than people like this, is the people who fall for it and are somehow impressed by it. PT Barnum comes to mind. |
Amen! |
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ktgraphics
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:27 pm
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Meh, eventually it come back to haunt them. :| |
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cameron
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:28 pm
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I don't understand why the gallery would would showcase their stolen work. Or why the charges are not brought against them for damaging works of art. |
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evaners
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:41 pm
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| cameron wrote: | | I don't understand why the gallery would would showcase their stolen work. Or why the charges are not brought against them for damaging works of art. |
Yeah, vandalism and theft seem like obvious charges. And the idiots managed to preserve and record all the evidence the police would need to prosecute them. |
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peteklinger
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:44 pm
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| evaners wrote: | So, they are using other peoples snapshots, lifted without permission from their hard drives, because they "stumbled upon" users of a file sharing program who had misconfigured their profiles. And they claim that it's okay because they didn't "hack" them.
And then, they pull pieces off of other famous pieces of art, and display these pieces as art.
What I love best about this kind of nonsense is the convoluted and twisted way the "curator" rationalizes all this as "art",
The loot from the art-minded crime spree is intended to raise questions about what's private, what's public, and what makes art "art".
"We wanted to create a space where there's room for risk and a room for discussion," she said. "Sometimes if you don't shake those boundaries, you don't create conversation."
What a load of @$#&%#%! I've noticed over the years, that true art rarely needs much explanation. It's only when someone is trying to pawn off manure as art that you get this kind of screwy, art-y, cliche crap; "shake those boundaries", "create conversation", and the all-time classic "what makes art 'art'". The only thing more ridiculous than people like this, is the people who fall for it and are somehow impressed by it. PT Barnum comes to mind. |
I could expand on that, but maybe it would ruin the very well put viewpoint. I have asked people over the years, who indulge these odd and obscure projects and they usually come back with "What is Art"
Yes, nice but like Porn and the supreme court. They don't define it, but they know what it is when they see it. Crap Art is just for fools who seem to think as long as it's different it has some purpose or meaning. Maybe it does, fraud, a ploy to get attention or maybe to obtain false income, come to mind. LOL
"It was not an act of anger or iconoclasm," he said of the thefts, explaining that what he did was aimed at bringing the pieces "back to life, liberating them."
Liberating them is such a nice slippery way to cover for plain old Stealing and vandalism. |
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PaulCowan
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:47 am
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Liberating them is such a nice slippery way to cover for plain old Stealing and vandalism. |
I think they are struggling to find a new way of expressing the old slogan: "Property is theft". |
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rolffimages
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:34 am
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Is it art? Maybe. Is it a crime? It should be. |
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rudyumans
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:01 am
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| rolffimages wrote: | | Is it art? Maybe. Is it a crime? It should be. |
What do you mean "it should be"? Just because the authorities in the UK are apparently more concerned with photographers/Artists taken pictures on public places than with these kind of things doesn't mean it is not a crime. (as it has been for a long time now) |
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lffile
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rolffimages
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:22 pm
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| rudyumans wrote: | | rolffimages wrote: | | Is it art? Maybe. Is it a crime? It should be. |
What do you mean "it should be"? Just because the authorities in the UK are apparently more concerned with photographers/Artists taken pictures on public places than with these kind of things doesn't mean it is not a crime. (as it has been for a long time now) |
I meant if any of these actions were not a crime they should be. |
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rolffimages
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:24 pm
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I wish Mr Koons would copy one of my images.
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iris42
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:14 pm
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| evaners wrote: | | So, they are using other peoples snapshots, lifted without permission from their hard drives, because they "stumbled upon" users of a file sharing program who had misconfigured their profiles. And they claim that it's okay because they didn't "hack" them. |
'Hackers' use methods like that all the time.
| evaners wrote: | | And then, they pull pieces off of other famous pieces of art, and display these pieces as art. |
How is breaking and stealing other art pieces not breaking and stealing?! Aren't the museums who they stole this stuff from concerned about this? Geez, not only should these chowder heads be arrested, anyone who buys their 'art' should be arrested too for recieving stolen property. That curator is practically a fence... |
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evaners
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:22 pm
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| iris42 wrote: | | evaners wrote: | | So, they are using other peoples snapshots, lifted without permission from their hard drives, because they "stumbled upon" users of a file sharing program who had misconfigured their profiles. And they claim that it's okay because they didn't "hack" them. |
'Hackers' use methods like that all the time.
| evaners wrote: | | And then, they pull pieces off of other famous pieces of art, and display these pieces as art. |
How is breaking and stealing other art pieces not breaking and stealing?! Aren't the museums who they stole this stuff from concerned about this? Geez, not only should these chowder heads be arrested, anyone who buys their 'art' should be arrested too for recieving stolen property. That curator is practically a fence... |
I'm not sure whether you've misread my sarcasm or if you are agreeing with me. But, to make it easier, I'll agree with exactly what you've said. :) These guys are crooks and chowderheads. |
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