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turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:31 pm     Reply with quote

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pharm


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:21 pm     Reply with quote

Why did you remove your EXIF data? Another issue is that you apparently let your camera meter off the sky which underexposed the planes. This also makes the shots look flat. If they're not too badly exposed, you can quickly fix it in post:




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turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:55 pm     Reply with quote

I don't know why my exif data isn't showing, but I'm not blocking it on purpose.
I shot a few planes 2/3 - 1 stop overexposed, but my camera's gamut warning was showing the sky's to be way blown out. I figured it would be easier to recover underexposed photos afterwards, so I just shot at 0 ev comp.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:08 am     Reply with quote

Shooting jets is not easy. It takes practice with the right technique. Exposure can also be a nightmare due to the small objects and the large brighter sky. Spot metering will often help with this.

You did have sucky weather. I would just use this as a learning experience and try again next time.
pharm


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 pm     Reply with quote

turbodls1ta wrote:
I don't know why my exif data isn't showing, but I'm not blocking it on purpose...


Are you sure? I think you're trying to hide your secrets! ;)

It's probably because you're pasting the original image into a new comp/image. If you take the original image, resize it, then SAVE IT WITH A DIFFERENT NAME (so you don't overwrite the original), it'll retain the EXIF data.

Also, agree with Dave. You had sucky weather for sure. A learning experience it is! We've all been there so don't sweat it.
turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:44 pm     Reply with quote

Yea, I'm just glad I had the opportunity to get great photos (subject-wise) and that they were relatively sharp compared to my previous photos. I will say that the high humidity made for some really cool vapor trails off the wings of a lot of the jets. I also got a pic of vapor pig tails coming off Fat Albert's replacement's props that I'll post later today.
As far as uploading them, I import them into LR3, then Edit In... into CS3 and Save for Web and resize then.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:03 pm     Reply with quote

This is one I took at the Blue Angels show in Pensacola. If you look close you see something coming off the ends of the winds and some puff kinda things out of the jet. Not sure what the heck they are but I thought it was pretty cool to capture them.



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turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:24 am     Reply with quote

Thas a cool shot Dave, from what I remember, those are sound pressure rings in the exhaust, caused when gas inside the afterburner flame is supersonic and the air outside the flame is not, causing the pressure differential to "spin" a ring inside the flame. It usually happens right during the transonic period of flight, or before super sonic flight.
Here's the pic I was talking about. I thought it was cool that the tips of the props were creating this pigtail vapor effect..



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pharm


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:12 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
...and some puff kinda things out of the jet.


Puff kinda things. Alrighty then. Dave, can you tell us in layman's terms and dispense with all that techno-aeronautic talk?
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:03 pm     Reply with quote

turbodls1ta wrote:
Thas a cool shot Dave, from what I remember, those are sound pressure rings in the exhaust, caused when gas inside the afterburner flame is supersonic and the air outside the flame is not, causing the pressure differential to "spin" a ring inside the flame. It usually happens right during the transonic period of flight, or before super sonic flight.
Here's the pic I was talking about. I thought it was cool that the tips of the props were creating this pigtail vapor effect..
No they are not.

They are not allowed to break the sound barrier what you see is part of the show.

I grew up Military around all of the Air Force Bases like Langley AFB, McConnell AFB, Stewart AFB and more.

I at times right now have Langley AFB F-22 Raptors fly over my place in excess of some 4-500mph just over the treetops and i am less then 15 miles from the Chesapeake Bay and about 25 miles from the Atlantic where when these jets come out of supersonic flight before they reach land and it is why they come over me so dam fast. You never hear them till they are on top of you when they come out of supersonic and go subsonic.

Wanna know the neat thing about the speed of sound and planes?

Well in most cases if it is going faster then the speed of sound you will see the plane before you hear it that is unless it is the stealth fighter based here in Langley or the Bomber which even when it is landing you can be at the end of the runway and know the plane is landing or taking off meaning it is doing well below the speed of sound but yet you wont hear it but you will see it?

The F-117 was first and now it is the F-22 Raptor.



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turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:11 am     Reply with quote

OK, that's great and all, but I don't think I said they are supersonic. I said it happens usually before supersonic flight, in the 650-700 MPH range, and when they hit the afterburner. It doesn't mean they do go supersonic.
If I am wrong, then please let me hear your reasoning.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:43 pm     Reply with quote

They are also known as shock diamonds.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/propulsion/q0224.shtml
bigrock


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:04 am     Reply with quote

turbodls1ta wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys. I guess I dont need as much glass as I thought I would. I've seen them in the past at fleet week in SF, but this is the first time my 4 year will see them and the first time I've ever attempted photographing something so radical.


Don't forget to bring good ear protection for you kid, and someone that watches him while you shoot... They can't escape the awesome noise and if they panic and run... or get lost in the crowd...
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:22 pm     Reply with quote

Saving for the web is stripping exif data. Why are you saving for the web? just resize and save as with a different name. I post a lot, never used save for web.unless Im making a new avatar.
turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:35 pm     Reply with quote

Call me ignorant, but thats the only way I can save a file in CS3 in any format other than a .psd. Its also easiest IMO to resize.
 
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