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turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:10 pm     Reply with quote

Just some random bird I shot while in South Texas. Just seeing if Im on the right track..
1/4000, f5.6, ISO 400, 200mm



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robhainer


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:17 pm     Reply with quote

Focus is close, but a bit soft. Also noisy and underexposed. Composition isn't bad, though too centered.

You don't need 1/4000 of a second. It's not a bullet. You can afford to drop your iso since it's not a moving target. That will help with the noise.


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turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:17 pm     Reply with quote

BTW, anyone know what kind of bird this is?
turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:23 pm     Reply with quote

Yea, It was shot at 1/4000 because I was actually in the middle of shooting jets and forgot to to adjust. Would a smaller aperture have helped the DoF or would it not have mattered? I was roughly 50 ft away..
robhainer


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 pm     Reply with quote

Might have helped focus by getting you closer to the sweet spot on your lens, which is f8 on most telephotos. Not sure about yours. DOF isn't the issue. It's the focus on the subject itself.

The focus isn't that far off. The noise from underexposure is killing the detail.

I think it's a mockingbird, by the way.
turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:36 pm     Reply with quote

Canon 70-200 f4
chinchoi


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:31 pm     Reply with quote

i think not enough frontal light to show the bird's feather detail, so it look soft, & your focus seems to be on the bird torso and not the eye, thus the OOF issue.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:44 pm     Reply with quote

A bit more like this.


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pharm


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:50 pm     Reply with quote

Fill flash.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:28 am     Reply with quote

"Yea, It was shot at 1/4000 because I was actually in the middle of shooting jets and forgot to to adjust."

Well....DUH.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:48 pm     Reply with quote

More like this I would say, and fill flash would have been great idea as you need more fill


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rinder99


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:50 pm     Reply with quote

Ya wanna shoot this subject, Ya need a flash extender.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:55 pm     Reply with quote

and forget about built-in camera flashes
turbodls1ta


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:10 pm     Reply with quote

So slower exposure, or fill flash.. Check.. Right now I have a 430EX, which I think has a range of about 120ft (which could have worked here, I guess). Was it just the underexposure that caused the noise? I gave the original photo about 30% noise reduction, which took care of the sky and brighter spots, but not the chest of the bird..
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:21 pm     Reply with quote

turbodls1ta wrote:
So slower exposure, or fill flash.. Check.. Right now I have a 430EX, which I think has a range of about 120ft (which could have worked here, I guess). Was it just the underexposure that caused the noise? I gave the original photo about 30% noise reduction, which took care of the sky and brighter spots, but not the chest of the bird..


Underexposure is generally the cause of most noise
What is needed is the balancing of the underside of the bird with the upper side which is lit by the sun and or sky
 
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