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hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:55 pm     Reply with quote

chbaum wrote:
Hi everyone,

thanks for all your input! Now, I'll try this approach: take my time and MAKE my landscape shots.

However, the problem with my beloved outdoor vacations is: They provide the most stunning landscapes, but I often don't have the time (it's a vacation from a full time job, and the missus is there as well ;) and suitcase space for my tripod. Since I'm not a professional photographer, my reality is that I can be glad to be able to choose from several different lenses, but quite often without a tripod. Composing a shot for me always will be a compromise because none of my vacations has been a pure photography vacation so far.

But I promise I will bring a tripod as much as possible from now on. I hope I can create some really stunning shots. Gonna practice around here a bit, although it's not too stunning most of the time... :)

Best regards,

Christian


Also keep practicing your hand holding technique. Being able to get tack sharp images both ways is a big plus.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:56 pm     Reply with quote

luizeduardo wrote:
rinder99 wrote:

A big ass heavy tripod with a good solid Ballhead is the key with landscape work. On our last Monument Valley trip. 3 students were using 3 way video heads...... That won't work.They listened to some idiot salesman. Now they have to Buy again.Stability is KEY in Landscape.



Hi Laurin! I saw you and ohters here talking many times about a sturdy tripod. What is the best cost benefit you recomend to take pictures as in this thread?


The links that Ron gave (below) is a good combination. This is what I use on my travels.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:05 pm     Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDsx3-FWfwk
greenfield54


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Post Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:08 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:

One of the problems with this comes from infinity focus. Some lenses make you think they are at infinity when they are really not. On some lenses you need to back off a bit and not have the focus ring cranked all the way to the end. Often, depending on the lens this can be off of infinity focus.

If it goes past the symbol a touch then you probably are not at true infinity.

It's hard to pinpoint things when we are not there to actually see what is going on.


I would just like to stress what Dave just said. I'm always on the look out for good buys and lenses are one of them. Occassionally I come across quality Nikkors which lost their resale value due to neglect (fungus,etc.). What I do is dismantle the darn things to clean and in the process I sometimes screw things up such that the focus ring goes way past infinity rendering everything OOF. So lenses can be assembled at the factory with a tad of mis calibration due to assembly errors.
mikenorton


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:15 am     Reply with quote

Well since I once visited Karlsruhe, Germany and photographed at an oil refinery there you're gonna get all 6 of Mike Norton's first rule of landscape photography. The English isn't off, there are 6 of them and none is more important than the others so they are all Mike Norton's first rule of landscape photography.


Mike's Norton’s First Rule of Landscape Photography: If you are hungry and it's not lunchtime then you should be out shooting pictures.

Mike's Norton’s First Rule of Landscape Photography: No clouds? No pictures!

Mike's Norton’s First Rule of Landscape Photography: Always turn around and go back.

Mike's Norton’s First Rule of Landscape Photography: When you find repeating patterns, either man made or in nature, you have hit the compositional jackpot.

Mike's Norton’s First Rule of Landscape Photography: Don’t get tunnel vision; always turn around to see what is going on behind you.

Mike's Norton’s First Rule of Landscape Photography: There is always one too many or one too few trees.

Now as to landscapes being sharp, the answer is like Dave said, YES.

This is how I would have focused on your "Rake" shot, by the way your not in a sand trap so next time move the rake. First I would not have been photographing at noon, I would have been eating lunch. Second if the boat was still there in the evening I would have moved my tripod a few feet to the right so that the tree did not bisect the boat. ;) I would then frame the composition and select the f-stop and shutter speed. Ok now the focusing part I promised. I would have manually focused on the boat and paid attention to where the lens was focused. Then I would have manually focused on the tree and again paid attention to where the lens was focused. Then I would have moved the focus about 1/3 of the way between the focus spot of the tree and the focus spot of the boat. Next I would have pressed the depth of field (dof) preview button and checked to see if the tree and the boat were both in focus at the f stop that I had chosen. If both were in focus I would shoot the picture. If they were not both in focus I would move the focus a little toward the tree if it was still soft or toward the boat if it was the object that was soft, and press the dof preview again. I would do this till both the tree and the boat were in focus then I would shoot.

If you focus this way when you look through the lens before you press the dof preview button nothing will be in focus, but when you press the dof button everything will be in focus.

That is the exact way I focused this image of Half Dome. My camera was actually focused on a point of air somewhere between the tree and Half Dome.

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/51753/51753,1237156297,1/stock-photo-half-dome-photographed-from-glacier-point-in-yosemite-national-park-california-26719693.jpg
chbaum


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:37 pm     Reply with quote

Hey Mike,

thanks very much, those are great tips! Of course, they're still a challenge for me, because I still rely on my AF and try to get my exposure right (after focus, this'll be the next big thing for me). Apart from that, I'm gonna take my tripod for a landscape session now... And in summer, I'll be in Canada to practice real hard. Just hope I can squeeze that tripod into my suitcase.

The oil refinery by the way is still here. I can see it from my kitchen window and always think of taking photos when another big red sun goes down between colorful clouds. But I'm not into industrial images yet... Maybe I should just try for once...

Best regards,

Christian
copidosoma


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:43 pm     Reply with quote

chbaum wrote:
And in summer, I'll be in Canada to practice real hard. Just hope I can squeeze that tripod into my suitcase.



Darn good place to practice.

;)
chbaum


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:48 pm     Reply with quote

So I heard. Time is sparse (2 weeks only), it'll only be Vancouver, Banff and a bit of Vancouver Island OR Vancouver, Banff and a bit of Jasper. I just can't imagine the distances yet... Europe's locations are so small, I really could get a good impression of Iceland or Norway in two weeks, for instance. Canada will be a change, I guess... :)

Best regards,

Christian
cpaulfell


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:55 pm     Reply with quote

chbaum wrote:
Just hope I can squeeze that tripod into my suitcase.
Rent one when you get there. Typical rental runs about $40 to $60 per week.

e.g. http://www.leoscamera.com/Rental/#RANGE!A805
copidosoma


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:07 pm     Reply with quote

chbaum wrote:
So I heard. Time is sparse (2 weeks only), it'll only be Vancouver, Banff and a bit of Vancouver Island OR Vancouver, Banff and a bit of Jasper. I just can't imagine the distances yet... Europe's locations are so small, I really could get a good impression of Iceland or Norway in two weeks, for instance. Canada will be a change, I guess... :)

Best regards,

Christian


You could spend a month photographing on Vancouver Island. Some of the coastal views are absolutely stunning. Particularly the west coast of the island (it can take a bit of work to get there). Tofino and Uclulet are great (best surfing in Canada), Bamfield has some crazy nice coastline.

Banff, Lake Louise (in Banff) and Jasper are pretty well a landscape photographer's dream. Great wildlife opportunities as well.

I kick myself regularly for not having more images from those parks given that I live relatively nearby. Gotta get my priorities straight.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:23 pm     Reply with quote

chbaum wrote:
Europe's locations are so small, I really could get a good impression of Iceland or Norway in two weeks, for instance. Canada will be a change, I guess... :)

Europe is only 3 times smaller than Canada. Yes the countries are smaller, but if you travel 3000 km from Amsterdam you just might make it to Moscow. Europe covers 10,180,000 square kilometres, plenty of room to take a photo or 2 :) Two weeks in Iceland maybe, two weeks in Norway is not enough. The coastline is staggering. From Wiki: The rugged coastline, broken by huge fjords and thousands of islands, stretches 25,000 kilometres (16,000 mi) and 83,000 kilometres (52,000 mi) including fjords and islands.
mikenorton


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:09 pm     Reply with quote

Lake Louise is nice but be sure to go the 14 or so kilometers from Lake Louise to Moraine Lake, it makes Lake Louise look like Galveston Bay.
This is Moraine Lake on a cloudy morning, I used the same focus technique on this image.

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/51753/51753,1217964937,1/stock-photo-moraine-lake-in-banff-national-park-located-in-alberta-canada-15785989.jpg

This is Moraine Lake on a nicer morning, I most likely focused on the mountains in this one.

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/51753/51753,1193023308,1/stock-photo-moraine-lake-in-banff-national-park-alberta-canada-6291733.jpg
kellythorson


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:43 pm     Reply with quote

copidosoma wrote:
chbaum wrote:
So I heard. Time is sparse (2 weeks only), it'll only be Vancouver, Banff and a bit of Vancouver Island OR Vancouver, Banff and a bit of Jasper. I just can't imagine the distances yet... Europe's locations are so small, I really could get a good impression of Iceland or Norway in two weeks, for instance. Canada will be a change, I guess... :)

Best regards,

Christian


You could spend a month photographing on Vancouver Island. Some of the coastal views are absolutely stunning. Particularly the west coast of the island (it can take a bit of work to get there). Tofino and Uclulet are great (best surfing in Canada), Bamfield has some crazy nice coastline.

Banff, Lake Louise (in Banff) and Jasper are pretty well a landscape photographer's dream. Great wildlife opportunities as well.

I kick myself regularly for not having more images from those parks given that I live relatively nearby. Gotta get my priorities straight.


The West Coast of Canada is beautiful as well are the Rockies, but Newfoundland is in my opinion by far the most picturesque, albeit little known. And here am I stuck in the middle on the prairie where I can photograph my dog running away for three days straight. ;)
rinder99


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:44 pm     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
chbaum wrote:
Just hope I can squeeze that tripod into my suitcase.
Rent one when you get there. Typical rental runs about $40 to $60 per week.

e.g. http://www.leoscamera.com/Rental/#RANGE!A805


Just change your Bag to a duffel. then everything fits. cameras and lenses stay with you carry on.
 
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