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jutia


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Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:39 pm     Reply with quote

regards
I've been working on my approach shots, please criticize



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ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:10 pm     Reply with quote

Looks a tad soft but you are coming around.
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Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:31 pm     Reply with quote

Agree...But I don't see the value in the squashed Strawberry.??And what is the white thing behind it. if I can't tell. a buyer won't either. Cheese? never heard of strawberries and crackers.Heres my only strawberry shot from 7 years ago. I reviewed for 3+ years If there was 2 things I saw more than anything else was strawberries and Kiwis.


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ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:36 pm     Reply with quote

I think it is butter, Strawberry jam and Captains wafers?
rinder99


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Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:37 pm     Reply with quote

well....OK? strawberries and butter? Hmmmm
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:43 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
well....OK? strawberries and butter? Hmmmm
Like a piece of toast with butter and jam except on a captains wafer cracker?

Now i am going to have to try it.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:45 am     Reply with quote

From first looking at the shot I think I got the concept which is putting strawberry jam on a cracker and the whole strawberry on the cracker is there to accentuate the idea of yes it is strawberry jam.

You are over thinking this. If you want to use both the jam and the whole berries just put the jam on the crackers, bread or whatever then in the background have the whole strawberries. That will make the connection. Putting the strawberry on the cracker I think will make the viewer go "What the heck?"

Also think through the shot. Food photography is all about making things look amazing and as natural as possible. Now, look at the shot and tell me what just doesn't look right. You have a knitted or woven table cloth or place mat as a base. Now you have crackers, strawberries, jam and butter sitting right on that and not on a plate. Is this something that you would normally do? I don't think so.

People have a tendency to over style food shots and forget about the basics. Under most circumstances you want things to look just how you would find them in a normal everyday situation. There are exceptions but again it is ok to break the rules as long as you understand the rule and how to break it.
jutia


Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:08 am     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
From first looking at the shot I think I got the concept which is putting strawberry jam on a cracker and the whole strawberry on the cracker is there to accentuate the idea of yes it is strawberry jam.

You are over thinking this. If you want to use both the jam and the whole berries just put the jam on the crackers, bread or whatever then in the background have the whole strawberries. That will make the connection. Putting the strawberry on the cracker I think will make the viewer go "What the heck?"

Also think through the shot. Food photography is all about making things look amazing and as natural as possible. Now, look at the shot and tell me what just doesn't look right. You have a knitted or woven table cloth or place mat as a base. Now you have crackers, strawberries, jam and butter sitting right on that and not on a plate. Is this something that you would normally do? I don't think so.

People have a tendency to over style food shots and forget about the basics. Under most circumstances you want things to look just how you would find them in a normal everyday situation. There are exceptions but again it is ok to break the rules as long as you understand the rule and how to break it.



thanks for wide criticism, I really love the way you see the shots of food.
exactly that is the main concept of strawberry jam on biscuits
I did not use a dish to make the picture a little more rural to identify a little with the people who produce the product. can a white dish image would have been more in line with food photography but wanted to give a touch of informality of a day in the open field


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jutia


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Location: Dominican Republic

Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:20 am     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
Agree...But I don't see the value in the squashed Strawberry.??And what is the white thing behind it. if I can't tell. a buyer won't either. Cheese? never heard of strawberries and crackers.Heres my only strawberry shot from 7 years ago. I reviewed for 3+ years If there was 2 things I saw more than anything else was strawberries and Kiwis.


strawberry is not crushed, the other side is strawberry jam and butter, but also strawberry and cheese make a good combination of flavors. at least in these parts of the world
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:23 am     Reply with quote

jutia wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
From first looking at the shot I think I got the concept which is putting strawberry jam on a cracker and the whole strawberry on the cracker is there to accentuate the idea of yes it is strawberry jam.

You are over thinking this. If you want to use both the jam and the whole berries just put the jam on the crackers, bread or whatever then in the background have the whole strawberries. That will make the connection. Putting the strawberry on the cracker I think will make the viewer go "What the heck?"

Also think through the shot. Food photography is all about making things look amazing and as natural as possible. Now, look at the shot and tell me what just doesn't look right. You have a knitted or woven table cloth or place mat as a base. Now you have crackers, strawberries, jam and butter sitting right on that and not on a plate. Is this something that you would normally do? I don't think so.

People have a tendency to over style food shots and forget about the basics. Under most circumstances you want things to look just how you would find them in a normal everyday situation. There are exceptions but again it is ok to break the rules as long as you understand the rule and how to break it.



thanks for wide criticism, I really love the way you see the shots of food.
exactly that is the main concept of strawberry jam on biscuits
I did not use a plate to make the picture a little more rural to identify a little with the people who produce the product. can a white plate image would have been more in line with food photography but wanted to give a touch of informality of a day in the open field


Informality in a shot is fine but the basic idea of the shot needs to be something that the viewer will not usually see something wrong with the way it is done.

I look at it this way. If you as a parent came into the dinning room and saw your child putting something like strawberry jam on a cracker directly on one of your best tablecloths I have a feeling the child would be doing a big time out :)

Even the Amish people who are about as rural as one can get would want this on a plate or cutting board etc.

It doesn't have to be a white regular plate. It can be some other color and can also be long and rectangular or square.

Again, don't over think these concepts. Clean, pure and simple will often give you the best results.

I do applaud the way you wanted to do more than just plop something down and shoot it. Once again, it is the details that will make or break a shot.
jutia


Joined: 15 Apr 2012
Posts: 290
Location: Dominican Republic

Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:43 am     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
jutia wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
From first looking at the shot I think I got the concept which is putting strawberry jam on a cracker and the whole strawberry on the cracker is there to accentuate the idea of yes it is strawberry jam.

You are over thinking this. If you want to use both the jam and the whole berries just put the jam on the crackers, bread or whatever then in the background have the whole strawberries. That will make the connection. Putting the strawberry on the cracker I think will make the viewer go "What the heck?"

Also think through the shot. Food photography is all about making things look amazing and as natural as possible. Now, look at the shot and tell me what just doesn't look right. You have a knitted or woven table cloth or place mat as a base. Now you have crackers, strawberries, jam and butter sitting right on that and not on a plate. Is this something that you would normally do? I don't think so.

People have a tendency to over style food shots and forget about the basics. Under most circumstances you want things to look just how you would find them in a normal everyday situation. There are exceptions but again it is ok to break the rules as long as you understand the rule and how to break it.



thanks for wide criticism, I really love the way you see the shots of food.
exactly that is the main concept of strawberry jam on biscuits
I did not use a plate to make the picture a little more rural to identify a little with the people who produce the product. can a white plate image would have been more in line with food photography but wanted to give a touch of informality of a day in the open field


Informality in a shot is fine but the basic idea of the shot needs to be something that the viewer will not usually see something wrong with the way it is done.

I look at it this way. If you as a parent came into the dinning room and saw your child putting something like strawberry jam on a cracker directly on one of your best tablecloths I have a feeling the child would be doing a big time out :)

Even the Amish people who are about as rural as one can get would want this on a plate or cutting board etc.

It doesn't have to be a white regular plate. It can be some other color and can also be long and rectangular or square.

Again, don't over think these concepts. Clean, pure and simple will often give you the best results.

I do applaud the way you wanted to do more than just plop something down and shoot it. Once again, it is the details that will make or break a shot.


ok, with the example of children clearly understood the concept of what is really hygienic and esthetically correct, you are absolutely right, I'll take note, thank you very much
 
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