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luizeduardo
Joined: 12 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:23 am
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| semmickphoto wrote: | | Quote: | One more to compose ten
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Today is 13 May. If it took you over a month to get a photo of beans sorted, you are going to find this a very tough business. |
This is what I call a unecessary post.
This was a casual shot. I made many others in between. And don't forget that I spare just the weekends to photography. |
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semmickphoto
Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 6486
Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:39 am
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Why are you submitting to a stock site? To make money, right?
I am merely pointing out that you need to put a lot more photos in, in one month, to get some ROI.
If you want to submit a few photos a month, be my guest. |
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luizeduardo
Joined: 12 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:33 am
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| semmickphoto wrote: | Why are you submitting to a stock site? To make money, right?
I am merely pointing out that you need to put a lot more photos in, in one month, to get some ROI.
If you want to submit a few photos a month, be my guest. |
No, you are wrong. Things are not so black and white. The photos I put here are a part of my apprenticeship. Photography is not a job for me. I don't feel in a hurry to make money with it.
Nothing give me more pleasure than submit my work here and listen to your advices and experiences. I gladly accept critiques but I think they should at least address the context of the thread.
The comment you made sounded out of context and the reply you gave sounds more like as if you don't want to loose your reason. I have seen many threads in different forums degrade due this type of post and I don't like it, so I will not post about this anymore. |
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marcusvdt
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
Posts: 1201
Location: www.flashbackfoto.com.br or www.facebook.com/flashbackfoto
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:59 pm
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| luizeduardo wrote: | | semmickphoto wrote: | Why are you submitting to a stock site? To make money, right?
I am merely pointing out that you need to put a lot more photos in, in one month, to get some ROI.
If you want to submit a few photos a month, be my guest. |
No, you are wrong. Things are not so black and white. The photos I put here are a part of my apprenticeship. Photography is not a job for me. I don't feel in a hurry to make money with it.
Nothing give me more pleasure than submit my work here and listen to your advices and experiences. I gladly accept critiques but I think they should at least address the context of the thread.
The comment you made sounded out of context and the reply you gave sounds more like as if you don't want to loose your reason. I have seen many threads in different forums degrade due this type of post and I don't like it, so I will not post about this anymore. |
+1
The critiques should be addressed to the photos. |
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39217
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:23 pm
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+2. I may be short sometimes or long sometimes. It all depends on the words i read. Being a parrot from me and just saying shit from before or anyone else is stupid. If a person is not ready , then there not ready and leave it at that. personally for this person which [Being on the internet] we have no clue there motivation or there work ethic but...... I do agree with ron and probably something I said to him. If you can't get this together and show us your best..........? The reviewers are gonna kill you. Your coming along and what I've said probably a 1000 times. Take a class my friend. then come back and show us "YOUR BEST" You have come to this party very late. The dishes are washed and food is put away. You gotta be spectacular to do well with 20 Million others that are pretty darn good.
Just really remember, If you want this instead of just someplace to park 20 of your images. Don't waste your time because your to busy or don't do this professionally.. |
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semmickphoto
Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 6486
Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:58 am
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| marcusvdt wrote: | | luizeduardo wrote: | | semmickphoto wrote: | Why are you submitting to a stock site? To make money, right?
I am merely pointing out that you need to put a lot more photos in, in one month, to get some ROI.
If you want to submit a few photos a month, be my guest. |
No, you are wrong. Things are not so black and white. The photos I put here are a part of my apprenticeship. Photography is not a job for me. I don't feel in a hurry to make money with it.
Nothing give me more pleasure than submit my work here and listen to your advices and experiences. I gladly accept critiques but I think they should at least address the context of the thread.
The comment you made sounded out of context and the reply you gave sounds more like as if you don't want to loose your reason. I have seen many threads in different forums degrade due this type of post and I don't like it, so I will not post about this anymore. |
+1
The critiques should be addressed to the photos. |
I agree but I didnt critique him, all I pointed out that IF, which was witten in bold, it takes that long to come up with photos, it will be tough business. What is wrong whith that?
I was told I wasted my time going on a hike to practice focus.
@ Laurin, I am not paroting anyone, I speak my own mind. I noticed the time frame and made a comment.
But I apologise to all here. All I wanted to do is to point out that if it takes over a month to get one more photo to compose ten, it will be a tough place getting any results. Apologies. |
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luizeduardo
Joined: 12 Sep 2010
Posts: 72
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:06 am
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| semmickphoto wrote: |
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But I apologise to all here. All I wanted to do is to point out that if it takes over a month to get one more photo to compose ten, it will be a tough place getting any results. Apologies. |
Let's move on.
Now, just to be clear, I agree with Laurin when he says "You have come to this party very late. The dishes are washed and food is put away.". It is a bit radical, but I think, taking in consideratino all I have read in this forum, that this is his style.
Stock, for me, is the best way I found to get motivation to get deeper in photography. Am I going to work professinaly with it? I don't know and I don't care. In my point of view, still it's worthy to try.
There are people's opinion here I take in consideration and others not so much, but it is really a pleasure to read all of them. My only worry is that I have misunderstood this forum and have been using this space in a wrong way taking space from the really pro people, wich is not my case (yet). If so, I have no problems in posting no more and stay just as a "listener" :) |
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39217
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:28 am
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My point is.At this stage of the game IF you want something out of this it's gonna take enormous time and effort compared to when some of us started. I joined when there were 350,000 Images. everything we submitted sold in hours or days. Now, we are lucky if our stuff even gets seen at all let alone sell with 50,000 + new ones coming in every week. If your here to sell, It's tough, it takes Massive quality,Amazing processing skills,Extreme creativity with a commercial Mindset and Huge amounts of files to make a dent But, That said there are still some with 500 Images that do very well.If ya just wanna Learn Photography and improve your skills Thats cool also But, I would if I were you Take a class somewhere. Were really not geared up to help much more than help you get approved at this game. And even then unfortunately we seem to miss it at times.
Just don't make the mistake others have and think anything we say is personal in any way. Like for instance focus issues, Theres just to many reasons for problems Also for noise and or composition. Always remember this is a stock site. Not an art site and we look and critique with that in mind. If I was on an art site or a Pro site My answers and responses would be completely different. |
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copidosoma
Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Posts: 3784
Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:09 pm
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| luizeduardo wrote: | | semmickphoto wrote: |
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But I apologise to all here. All I wanted to do is to point out that if it takes over a month to get one more photo to compose ten, it will be a tough place getting any results. Apologies. |
Let's move on.
Now, just to be clear, I agree with Laurin when he says "You have come to this party very late. The dishes are washed and food is put away.". It is a bit radical, but I think, taking in consideratino all I have read in this forum, that this is his style.
Stock, for me, is the best way I found to get motivation to get deeper in photography. Am I going to work professinaly with it? I don't know and I don't care. In my point of view, still it's worthy to try.
There are people's opinion here I take in consideration and others not so much, but it is really a pleasure to read all of them. My only worry is that I have misunderstood this forum and have been using this space in a wrong way taking space from the really pro people, wich is not my case (yet). If so, I have no problems in posting no more and stay just as a "listener" :) |
Don't stay "a lisetner". This community is made up of a diverse set of photographers with a diverse background and diverse goals. All opinions are valuable.
And it is important to note that not everyone here is here to make a living at this. A few hundred bucks a month is great for many folks here and is a fine starting goal for anyone starting (even this late in the game). The days of sending anything in and having it sell regularly and immediately may be over and making a living soley out of MS may not be a reasonable goal. To get to that level would likely take a huge investment in time and effort (not to mention excellent skills and piles of creativity) and some will continue to do it. There are a few who have recently joined and are well on their way to that stage. The rest of us have different goals (and 70 hour a week day jobs).
There are alot around who will criticize folks for not putting up the required 30 images a week or whatever the standard is to be considered serious. Not everyone needs to be the next Yuri. You can still get ALOT out of this.
Creative, uncommon and commercially valuable shots will get noticed and will sell. |
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luizeduardo
Joined: 12 Sep 2010
Posts: 72
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:40 pm
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Just don't make the mistake others have and think anything we say is personal in any way. |
Not at all! I am not made of glass :-)
My intentions here are really modest, but one thing I have learned is that life changes in ways you never expect, so I wouldn't be surprised if what is today a passion tomorrow could be my bread and butter. And besides, you always can adapt lessons taken to other photography fields. |
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luizeduardo
Joined: 12 Sep 2010
Posts: 72
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:16 pm
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| copidosoma wrote: | | luizeduardo wrote: | | semmickphoto wrote: |
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But I apologise to all here. All I wanted to do is to point out that if it takes over a month to get one more photo to compose ten, it will be a tough place getting any results. Apologies. |
Let's move on.
Now, just to be clear, I agree with Laurin when he says "You have come to this party very late. The dishes are washed and food is put away.". It is a bit radical, but I think, taking in consideratino all I have read in this forum, that this is his style.
Stock, for me, is the best way I found to get motivation to get deeper in photography. Am I going to work professinaly with it? I don't know and I don't care. In my point of view, still it's worthy to try.
There are people's opinion here I take in consideration and others not so much, but it is really a pleasure to read all of them. My only worry is that I have misunderstood this forum and have been using this space in a wrong way taking space from the really pro people, wich is not my case (yet). If so, I have no problems in posting no more and stay just as a "listener" :) |
Don't stay "a lisetner". This community is made up of a diverse set of photographers with a diverse background and diverse goals. All opinions are valuable.
And it is important to note that not everyone here is here to make a living at this. A few hundred bucks a month is great for many folks here and is a fine starting goal for anyone starting (even this late in the game). The days of sending anything in and having it sell regularly and immediately may be over and making a living soley out of MS may not be a reasonable goal. To get to that level would likely take a huge investment in time and effort (not to mention excellent skills and piles of creativity) and some will continue to do it. There are a few who have recently joined and are well on their way to that stage. The rest of us have different goals (and 70 hour a week day jobs).
There are alot around who will criticize folks for not putting up the required 30 images a week or whatever the standard is to be considered serious. Not everyone needs to be the next Yuri. You can still get ALOT out of this.
Creative, uncommon and commercially valuable shots will get noticed and will sell. |
Nothing to add :-) It fits perfectly to me. |
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robhainer
Joined: 03 May 2010
Posts: 2746
Location: Dallas, GA, USA
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:23 pm
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I don't buy that it's too late. There are always concepts out there you can shoot, or ones you can improve on what's already there. I've even had a just-approved flower photo sell a few times today, and there's millions of flower photos to compete with. |
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marcusvdt
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
Posts: 1201
Location: www.flashbackfoto.com.br or www.facebook.com/flashbackfoto
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:33 pm
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| robhainer wrote: | | I don't buy that it's too late. There are always concepts out there you can shoot, or ones you can improve on what's already there. |
And don't forget you can still do the same things, and not necessarily better, but differently. Being different is the key. |
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marcusvdt
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
Posts: 1201
Location: www.flashbackfoto.com.br or www.facebook.com/flashbackfoto
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:34 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | I joined when there were 350,000 Images. everything we submitted sold in hours or days. |
Everything that I submit get sold in hours. Isn't it the same with you? ;-) |
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39217
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:12 pm
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I wish. |
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