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jutia · Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 290 Location: Dominican Republic

critical for this shot of a sunset

ruxpriencdiam · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:30 pm

Not quite a sunset you shot at the wrong time.

And it is OOF.

jutia · Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 290 Location: Dominican Republic

ruxpriencdiam · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:54 pm

jutia · Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 290 Location: Dominican Republic

rinder99 · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:02 pm

Most people don't wait long enough.There is a 3/5 min window when the sky goes magenta right after s the sun dissapears or right before. also you need some interest in a foreground. this is more dusk than sundown.And without clouds there is no drama making it a flat Image.It has no Punch.Bottom one is mine and the other a top seller. compare yours with this. and also there are a million sunset pictures, They have to be spectacular.

jutia · Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 290 Location: Dominican Republic

rinder99 · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:38 pm

The point is my friend your shot has no Commercial value as a sunset or sunrise. it's just a badly exposed Image period. What your up against here is very Good professional Photographers that know what it takes to do this. The Images I posted show a time and place ...Yours does not and it's OOF still. I wish you the best of Luck but maybe this, at this time just isn't for you.

That doesn't mean you can't do this but you have a lot of work cut out before you can see with your eyes and then be able to properly capture it. Don't give up. Shoot the light My friend...Shoot the light. Thats all we have.Some folks travel the world shooting just sunsets, And perfect landscapes. My Best advice is find a subject that works for you and go after it.

mikenorton · Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:50 pm

I use the term sunset for images that were shot just before or just after the time when the sun goes below the horizon. Before the sun goes below the horizon I point the camera in the opposite direction of the sun. This way I photograph the warm light on the landscape. After the sun goes below the horizon I point the camera in the direction where the sun was and shoot the colors in the sky. It's the same thing with sunrise but I point the camera in the opposite direction of the sun after it is above the horizon and I point the camera in the direction where the sun is going to be before it comes up.

But I will call both a sunrise or sunset image because I photographed them around the time of sunrise or sunset. Others may disagree with me on this but that is my definition.

To me this is a picture of a sunset:

http://www.shutterstock.com/g/mikenorton#id=1616103

And this is a sunset picture:

http://www.shutterstock.com/g/mikenorton#id=16707955

So to me your picture is a sunset picture but it is not a picture of a sunset.

jhuls · Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Posts: 1046

jutia · Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 290 Location: Dominican Republic

jutia · Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 290 Location: Dominican Republic

rinder99 · Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:43 am

No such thing as a "League" what you have to do Like I said at the first Image you posted is Do the work, Understand how a camera works and all it's functions ,Theres only 3 things you need to know. #1 is DOF, #2 is Exposure and #3 Composition. You miss anyone of those your done.And composition is the toughest of the 3 regardless of subject. Find a subject that means something to you, Your all over the Place. Find one thing that you love to do and study it, Shoot the hell out of it until you have mastered it, Then find another and another. And learn The basic fundamentals of Photography and all the rules of Image making. After you have learned them.... break all of them. Then your free to create.And you will then know why.I shoot on auto all the time. But...... Heres a big but If that doesn't work I know in a instant how to change it.

jeffbanke · Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:03 am

One of the major criteria for dramatic sunset imagery is the presence of clouds.

It is the clouds that pick up the varied colors at sunset and reflect the light back down to us (the camera).

Often Sunsets are more dramatic facing away from the sun as in this case

This image was after we had some serious forest fires here in California, and for days we had skies that resembled Mordor.

This is another example of facing away from the sun and looking at what it is doing to the sky and has the added interest of water reflecting the light from El Capitan.

rinder99 · Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:50 am

Also. If we like the shot and the sky is not cooperating we will replaced the sky. Heres My Last Landscape shot.The sun was right but the sky was Blah. And. you can use the trees as a silhouette with the sun.Taken in Hawaii a few months ago.The top one was "As shot" Not bad on it's own But much better with clouds. Good Luck.