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alastair27


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:21 am     Reply with quote

Have been getting a lot of these rejections, can understand the poor lighting but not so sure about the noise and where to look for it. Often think I have been oversharpening! Also in the past have got rejections for shooting architecture straight on rather than at an angle.

Anyway have reworked the photo lessening the sharpening and replacing the sky, however the building still looks as if it was taken under an overcast sky.

Looking at it on the forum, both look totally OOF



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alastair27


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:23 am     Reply with quote

this is the reworked version - again OOF


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mscates176


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:50 am     Reply with quote

A good place to look for noise is in any dark areas of an image.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:50 am     Reply with quote

first one has more contrast and looks better to me, i like the sky better in 2nd
nadger


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:06 am     Reply with quote

Are you putting the images through HDR processes?
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:03 am     Reply with quote

The reworked version looks over exposed. I think one of your problems is that you are mucking around too much with post processing.

My first question is why are you doing all the sharpening? If you shot it in RAW then it can be of a help to do a tiny amount but I hope you are not doing it to try and get the shot in better focus because that is not going to happen.

Sharpening does not make an image sharper it just gives the illusion that it is. Also too much processing can create artifacts.

As mentioned noise is easily found in dark areas or often in places such as the sky.
alastair27


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:19 am     Reply with quote

have always done a little bit of sharpening, maybe a bad habit I've got into but have got away with it until recently.
Now trying to do only 20% sharp smartening and use manual focusing.

The first one did use HDR processing in Photomatrix to give the sky more impact. The original, as seen below, was dull as dishwater and therefore in need of a little post-processing



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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:21 am     Reply with quote

HDR processing in Photomatix tends to create noisy photos. Sometime a lot of noise.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:28 am     Reply with quote

Simple adjustments in LR

Exposure, Clarity, vibrancy and contrast



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nadger


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:46 am     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
HDR processing in Photomatix tends to create noisy photos. Sometime a lot of noise.


+1
fotomak


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:15 pm     Reply with quote

Your problem is in the lack of balance between the clouds and the building ( front ). You need more light in the front, and this will wash out the clouds. I would replace the clouds with blue sky which nicely complements the building and the path. You can do this or if you have a chance go back and shoot at different light conditions.


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rinder99


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:16 pm     Reply with quote

+1000 Nice job.
fotomak


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:30 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you sir :)
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:32 pm     Reply with quote

There's floating leaves now
fotomak


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:37 pm     Reply with quote

It was just a quick fix to serve as an example.
 
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