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pcbueg71
Joined: 03 Nov 2007
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rudyumans

Joined: 19 Aug 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:01 pm
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I can give you a tour of Bimidi in the Bahamas ( nuclear testing site during WW2) and I can show you the cold war Hawk and Nike launching facilities down here in the Everglades. Might be cheaper |
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rinder99

Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:02 pm
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Surprised it's still an island. |
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ruxpriencdiam

Joined: 07 May 2009
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Location: Third Stone from the Sun
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:05 pm
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leave it to a book educated Scientist to come up with this instead of using a little common sense.
After above ground was stopped here is what Science said.
Hey lets do underground testing!
Whoa Brilliant absolutely briliant, ever light an M-80 inside a container full of something liquid or solid? And if so what happens?
Wonder why there are earthquakes? Wonder what all that underground testing has loosened up? |
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triceratops

Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Location: The other Nevada
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:52 pm
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I was on and dove both Majuro and Kwajalein back in the early 80's. Kwajalein was a major missile tracking facility for ICBM tests over the Pacific back then and access was highly restricted. Also, I recall Majuro as being a part of the Western Caroline Islands, not the Marshalls. In 30 years, a lot can change. Never made it over to Bikini (it was still too hot back then so I was told) and I'm probably too old to meet the dive requirements they list now anyway so I guess I'll just have to pass. |
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pancaketom

Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:55 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | ...
Wonder why there are earthquakes? Wonder what all that underground testing has loosened up? |
Plate tectonics is the short answer to why we have earthquakes. There were plenty of earthquakes before any nuclear tests. Not so many giant ants or godzillas though. |
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pcbueg71
Joined: 03 Nov 2007
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Location: Half-way Between Heaven and Santa Fe
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:25 am
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| rinder99 wrote: | | Surprised it's still an island. |
I was surprised that it is not hot! I guess the radiation half-life is not 250 years! |
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PaulCowan

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
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Location: Evolving
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:26 am
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It's the rapidly decaying isotopes that are most dangerous. The level of radioactivity will fall exponentially. I don't have any idea much radiation atmospheric tests dumped on the ground in the immediate vicinity and how much was wafted away in the air we breathe.
Here's an interesting article about it
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/12/bikini_atoll_radiologically_safer_than_home/ |
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ruxpriencdiam

Joined: 07 May 2009
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Location: Third Stone from the Sun
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:36 am
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| pancaketom wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | ...
Wonder why there are earthquakes? Wonder what all that underground testing has loosened up? |
Plate tectonics is the short answer to why we have earthquakes. There were plenty of earthquakes before any nuclear tests. Not so many giant ants or godzillas though. | So you dont think the test's increased the activity any? |
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pcbueg71
Joined: 03 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:50 am
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Very doubtful that the nuclear detonation had any effect on the number of earthquakes. The biggest and worst effect was radiation.
When Bravo was detonated, it formed a fireball almost four and a half miles (roughly 7 km) across within a second. This fireball was visible on Kwajalein atoll over 250 miles (450 km) away. The explosion left a crater 6,500 feet (2,000 m) in diameter and 250 feet (75 m) in depth. The mushroom cloud reached a height of 47,000 feet (14 km) and a diameter of 7 miles (11 km) in about a minute; it then reached a height of 130,000 feet (40 km) and 62 miles (100 km) in diameter in less than 10 minutes and was expanding at more than 100 m/s (360 km/h, 224 mph). As a result of the blast, the cloud contaminated more than seven thousand square miles of the surrounding Pacific Ocean including some of the surrounding small islands. |
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peteklinger

Joined: 01 Aug 2007
Posts: 1040
Location: Great Place By a Great Lake
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:22 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | pancaketom wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | ...
Wonder why there are earthquakes? Wonder what all that underground testing has loosened up? |
Plate tectonics is the short answer to why we have earthquakes. There were plenty of earthquakes before any nuclear tests. Not so many giant ants or godzillas though. | So you dont think the test's increased the activity any? |
No I don't and I think people have seen too many scary movies.
The Nevada National Security Site is located 65 miles northwest of Las Vegas, Nevada. Thirteen atmospheric nuclear tests were conducted at the site between 1951 and 1962.
Now they have public tours with no monitoring badges required. (it's not hot enough) Here's the sad part. No cameras, cell phones, recorders, computers... photos would be interesting?
50 years and all those explosions, people used to line up on the hills and buildings to watch the tests. 65 miles isn't that far, is it?
Earthquakes and volcanism would cause more problems than some little explosion on some island or out in the desert?
Didn't Rodan come from this or was it the cockroach that ate Cincinnati? LOL |
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