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kenny123


Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 6078
Location: Masterton,Wairarapa, New Zealand

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:18 am     Reply with quote

After 7 years,I have decided it's a waste of time uploading here-the following shots were made within minutes of each other in exactly the same lighting,yet the first got approved,the other two were rejected for:

"Poor Lighting--Poor or uneven lighting, or shadows. White balance may be incorrect."



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patrickpoendl


Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Posts: 85
Location: Mainz, Germany

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:59 am     Reply with quote

Sorry, but I think the reviewers were exactly right here. The last two are underexposed.
kenny123


Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 6078
Location: Masterton,Wairarapa, New Zealand

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:24 am     Reply with quote

patrickpoendl wrote:
Sorry, but I think the reviewers were exactly right here. The last two are underexposed.


Sorry, but exposure is spot on on all images-I guarantee it.
hansenn


Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 816
Location: netherlands

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:54 am     Reply with quote

exposure may be right.
But the last two were shot with the sun in (the left) front of the lens. Not much, but enough to get those harsh lights and shadows instead of more saturated colors in the first shot
peterwey


Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Posts: 839
Location: www.peterwey.com

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:58 am     Reply with quote

hi kenny
imho i have to agree with the reviewers. the last two seem to have a wierd lighting, specially the last one. looks too dark an too contrasty on my screen...
sorry :-)
7 years is a long time here
pete
ajancso


Joined: 18 May 2009
Posts: 1889
Location: Right Behind You

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:21 am     Reply with quote

I don't have an issue with the second one, but I agree with the guys about the third shot - harsh light.
libyphoto


Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Posts: 796
Location: Oz

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:53 am     Reply with quote

Kenny,
I find that most shots not accepted by SS are accepted at other agencies... and sell!
matthi


Joined: 30 Sep 2010
Posts: 482

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:30 am     Reply with quote

kenny123 wrote:
After 7 years,I have decided it's a waste of time uploading here-the following shots were made within minutes of each other in exactly the same lighting,yet the first got approved,the other two were rejected for:

"Poor Lighting--Poor or uneven lighting, or shadows. White balance may be incorrect."


I would keep cool and never ever make such decisions in public and within the first 24hrs after your starting anger. Always sleep one night before

After all it was NOT exactly same light. In the 1st one your light source was in opposite direction then in the other 2

And if you look carefully at the shadow produced by the grass border in #1 and compare it with #3, then you see that the shadow in the ladder one is much darker and maybe even a bit longer

Depending on the daytime, minutes can make a huge difference, and I bet that is no news for you

Now, if they were right or could have let them going thru, well, don“t know from the small preview. Guess they were just borderline enough to be rejected

good luck for your next batch
hansenn


Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 816
Location: netherlands

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:16 pm     Reply with quote

at least one got approved. My last batch of 25 all got rejected.
On another site (also a respectable one like ss) 24 of them were approved.

My advice: forget your rejections and keep shooting.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:58 pm     Reply with quote

I feel the pain man. I had 2 rejected awhile back for lighting also. I resubmitted and both accepted to both getting a EL each. I made 56 dollars and SS made $146.00 neither of us would have made that money if I believed some reviewer.Almost cost me money and SS.That said....

Your first Image is perfect as per subject, Your second is just OK and should have gone through and third is way off,color,detail,And overly Contrasty and lighting. Sorry Brother, Just my opinion since you posted.kenny....You do have a heavy hand at processing at times.Stay cool.
tbarrat


Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 28
Location: Chicago, IL

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:27 pm     Reply with quote

SS does not appreciate shadows, so image #2 has one. My encouragement is not to quit, but to accept the SS position, and don't upload images with shadows to them. Others will take them. Other stock sites don't want cropped images, so I have stopped uploading close images there.

No big deal, just adapt to the company's sweet spot, and make your money that way without any drama.

Good luck.
kenny123


Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 6078
Location: Masterton,Wairarapa, New Zealand

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:56 pm     Reply with quote

tbarrat wrote:
SS does not appreciate shadows, so image #2 has one. My encouragement is not to quit, but to accept the SS position, and don't upload images with shadows to them. Others will take them. Other stock sites don't want cropped images, so I have stopped uploading close images there.

No big deal, just adapt to the company's sweet spot, and make your money that way without any drama.

Good luck.


Not a shadow but a reflection of tree on water
kellyplz


Joined: 09 Mar 2009
Posts: 17508
Location: Manitoulin Island, Canada.

Post Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:03 pm     Reply with quote

tbarrat wrote:
SS does not appreciate shadows, so image #2 has one. My encouragement is not to quit, but to accept the SS position, and don't upload images with shadows to them. Others will take them. Other stock sites don't want cropped images, so I have stopped uploading close images there.

No big deal, just adapt to the company's sweet spot, and make your money that way without any drama.

Good luck.


SS doesn't appreciate shadows?



Second most popular in your port.

Very nice image! I would love to visit Easter Island!
PaulCowan


Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 4181
Location: Evolving

Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:49 am     Reply with quote

All of us need to keep developing our understanding of what the requirements are. If we reach the point where we believe our work is perfect, the inspectors are wrong and it's not worth doing it any longer because of their frequent rejection mistakes, then maybe the final conclusion is right. SS isn't going to alter its standards to suit us so if we refuse to accept that there is any need for us to change then giving up might be the best answer.

For what it's worth, the third one needed fill flash if it was worth taking at all. The contrast difference between Easter Island (which looks natural) and the latest shots is instructive.
martyhaas


Joined: 25 Apr 2007
Posts: 148

Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:35 am     Reply with quote

The second one DOES have a strong shadow in it. Look at the tree's reflection in the water and you can see a sharp line going across it from left to right. The rectangular shadow consumes the bottom 1/5 of the photo or so. It's most noticeable in the tree's reflection but it goes almost to the right edge of the photo. It almost looks as though there was a building casting a shadow.
 
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