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darla


Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 912

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:18 am     Reply with quote

I was just deleting images from my portfolio that had gone for five years without a sale, and I was wondering if anyone else here does that.

Most of these are images that would not be accepted in the first place, if I tried to submit them now.

I figure, it gives me a better looking portfolio, and is nice for the site to clear these out, as well.

If you think about it, SS has over 35,000 contributors, and among them, there must be tens of thousands of dud images. (I deleted 31 today) My thinking is, it can only be good for sales to weed them out.

What do you think?
Mike Price


Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 2932
Location: South Wales

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:32 am     Reply with quote

I never delete any accepted images. I cannot see how it will help sales by deleting images. I dont think buyers go through all of anyones port to check quality, and there is alway a possibility of sales. You never know what a buyere is looking for.

MIke
ruxpriencdiam


Joined: 07 May 2009
Posts: 26795
Location: Third Stone from the Sun

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:41 am     Reply with quote

Mike Price wrote:
I never delete any accepted images. I cannot see how it will help sales by deleting images. I dont think buyers go through all of anyones port to check quality, and there is alway a possibility of sales. You never know what a buyere is looking for.

MIke
+1 Never ever delete what has been accepted because it could be the one to sell for $100 now.
warrenprice


Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Posts: 429
Location: Central Texas

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:43 am     Reply with quote

Mike Price wrote:
I never delete any accepted images. I cannot see how it will help sales by deleting images. I dont think buyers go through all of anyones port to check quality, and there is alway a possibility of sales. You never know what a buyere is looking for.

MIke


I disabled a bunch at DT, only because of the DT policy on moving images to FREE section if not sold in 2 years.

I've been busting my butt to get over 1K images in Shutterstock. I'm barely there; way to early to consider
"weeding the garden."
:-)
Mike Price


Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 2932
Location: South Wales

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:08 am     Reply with quote

warrenprice wrote:
Mike Price wrote:
I never delete any accepted images. I cannot see how it will help sales by deleting images. I dont think buyers go through all of anyones port to check quality, and there is alway a possibility of sales. You never know what a buyere is looking for.

MIke


I disabled a bunch at DT, only because of the DT policy on moving images to FREE section if not sold in 2 years.

I've been busting my butt to get over 1K images in Shutterstock. I'm barely there; way to early to consider
"weeding the garden."
:-)


I have a few DT images that I need to disable as they are in the free section.

Mike
hhltdave5


Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24302
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:27 am     Reply with quote

This has been talked about many times. I never have deleted any image. I have had shots that hardly ever sold then one day I had 5 ELs on them. As someone said in the other thread on this about a week ago (I think it was Mike Price) a deleted image will never sell.
warrenprice


Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Posts: 429
Location: Central Texas

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:21 pm     Reply with quote

I probably should not have stated that "I busted my butt." Actually, I've taken a pretty laid-back approach. But, I am glad that I finally reached a thousand. :-)

Anyway, I'm not in a hurry to delete the non-sellers; even though there is an over-abundance. :-)
darla


Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 912

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:49 pm     Reply with quote

I figure, in the five years these haven't sold, better images of the same concepts have been uploaded, maybe even by myself.

I can look over the original files, and see if I can do a better edit, and resubmit an updated version.
subarashii21


Joined: 12 May 2011
Posts: 463
Location: Czech Republic

Post Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:07 am     Reply with quote

I do this regularly, I delete my worst vectors, then try to improve them and submit again. My oldest vectors had many flaws, like too many anchor points, rough lines, radial gradients broken into hundreds of circle shapes etc.. - the flaws I didnt see months ago when I submitted them. I didnt want customers to come across such old technically flawed vector because it might discourage them from buying the newer stuff.

I think it pays off for vectors to clean up the portfolio from time to time.
peteklinger


Joined: 01 Aug 2007
Posts: 1040
Location: Great Place By a Great Lake

Post Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:44 am     Reply with quote

Sometimes when I get "inspired" I go back and check the keywords on old files.

Some I see have words that shouldn't be there and others are lacking because I uploaded them four years ago, and they need adjustment and improvement.

I still believe only words that are actually IN the image and prominent. Lying to buyers, or trying to trick them, just makes them angry at everyone including the agency.

Non-sellers, like others have said. They are here, they were good enough, maybe someday, someone will need it?
barnabychambers


Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 278

Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:16 am     Reply with quote

Here is why I haven't considered trashing pics that haven't sold. One or two gallery views a week is normal for me. I also figure they would almost all just look at the first page or two anyway. Best leave old stuff there incase it pops up in somebody's search.


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iggy1965


Joined: 15 Jun 2011
Posts: 126

Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:32 pm     Reply with quote

Mike Price wrote:
warrenprice wrote:
Mike Price wrote:
I never delete any accepted images. I cannot see how it will help sales by deleting images. I dont think buyers go through all of anyones port to check quality, and there is alway a possibility of sales. You never know what a buyere is looking for.

MIke


I disabled a bunch at DT, only because of the DT policy on moving images to FREE section if not sold in 2 years.

I've been busting my butt to get over 1K images in Shutterstock. I'm barely there; way to early to consider
"weeding the garden."
:-)


I have a few DT images that I need to disable as they are in the free section.

Mike


maybe I misunderstood but DT does puts them back to level 1 and thats the lowest level possible. AFAIK they are not put in the 'free' section
triceratops


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 7931
Location: The other Nevada

Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:41 pm     Reply with quote

iggy1965 wrote:
Mike Price wrote:
warrenprice wrote:
Mike Price wrote:
I never delete any accepted images. I cannot see how it will help sales by deleting images. I dont think buyers go through all of anyones port to check quality, and there is alway a possibility of sales. You never know what a buyere is looking for.

MIke


I disabled a bunch at DT, only because of the DT policy on moving images to FREE section if not sold in 2 years.

I've been busting my butt to get over 1K images in Shutterstock. I'm barely there; way to early to consider
"weeding the garden."
:-)


I have a few DT images that I need to disable as they are in the free section.

Mike


maybe I misunderstood but DT does puts them back to level 1 and thats the lowest level possible. AFAIK they are not put in the 'free' section


Keep in mind here that we are talking about old images that have never sold. Thus they are already at level 1 and have nowhere backwards to go. The DT policy is that after 2 years (give or take) of zero sales they send you an e-mail with three options (1) move the image to the free file section, (2) disable the image and (3) have it re-keyworded for a fee and put back into the system. Their normal default for this is to move the image to the free section; however, you can go in and reset the default to either of the other two options. I reset the default on my images to disable as the images in question are usually selling elsewhere and I don't want them offered up for free.
jmci


Joined: 29 Oct 2006
Posts: 2388
Location: Northern Ireland

Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:15 pm     Reply with quote

I agree with Russell, I don't like offering images for free either, especially after all the work I've put in processing, keywording and uploading them! Although in fairness, the ones that don't sell on DT are among my least popular on SS as well. The difference being that they've at least sold a few times here.
rinder99


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39620
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:14 pm     Reply with quote

My experience is. don't delete anything. we aren't the best judge of what sells. leave it to a buyer. Our job is simply to do the work. Let someone else determine it's value.I also think DT's decision on doing this is stupid.
 
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