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ezoom


Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Posts: 47
Location: Stockholm

Post Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:35 pm     Reply with quote

rhombur wrote:
Quote:
Why not give the photographer the opportunity to prioritize the,say 5 most important keywords


This is done at other places, and I do not like that idea. I often feel that I finally gave priority to the wrong keywords without having a chance to do any correction.



Who said anything about denying opportunity to change? :)
saje


Joined: 19 Jan 2007
Posts: 12

Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:56 pm     Reply with quote

I really like SS and appreciate them responding to client needs, but my sales have almost disappeared recently. My top selling image appears on page 2 of the popular search, but on page 57 in relevant! The more buyers use relevant search, the farther I'll drop in the popular as well. It's a death spiral. And it seems to reward keyword spamming. For example, my image of a weight scale, using key words "weight scale" appear after isolated apples, hundreds of women doing yoga and even a metranome or two. Almost totally irrellevant. I'm not trying to be a complainer, but since this is still beta, I'm hoping SS can tweak the system to fix scenarios like this one. Otherwise, it's just demoralizing.
chris56


Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 733
Location: Stockholm, London

Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:19 am     Reply with quote

relevance is effective as far as keywording is concerned, great search for generic material.

Dangerous and not very effective for conceptuals and ideas.
digibard


Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Posts: 29
Location: Kansas, USA

Post Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:28 am     Reply with quote

I hope someone is doing much better... I used to sell at least 1 image a day and often multiples. Since Relevant started I've sold 3 images.

I did some searches and in most cases the clips now appearing before mine in relevant "aren't" thanks to keyword spamming. So I'd like to thank Shutterstock for that. It was a good idea to create a "random" search and call it something other than random.
mj007


Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Posts: 57

Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:49 pm     Reply with quote

My old images are now clearly selling better than my new images. I guess thats ok ,as I have more old than new...As time goes my new will be old...money in the bank....
aace


Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Posts: 82
Location: Holland

Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:10 am     Reply with quote

I like it a lot, this also makes it possible for older pictures to be sold i guess.

Im relevant :D
elm98


Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 7

Post Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:06 pm     Reply with quote

still quite new, very small portfolio but since this was introduced I've not had a single sale, i was wondering why . i was getting more sales when i only had a few images - it seems the more images i have the less sales ?????
cgartistgirl


Joined: 20 Dec 2011
Posts: 159
Location: Mars

Post Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:28 am     Reply with quote

good idea!!!!!
cgartistgirl


Joined: 20 Dec 2011
Posts: 159
Location: Mars

Post Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:32 pm     Reply with quote

I want to be relevant
davidarts


Joined: 12 Jul 2008
Posts: 790
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:29 pm     Reply with quote

Hi SS and hi everyone,

As I've already said in many other trhreads, I've seen a big Drop Down in sales...
Maybe it's because of this new search alghotitm, even if it's only an option to select?
I used to sell hundreds of images daily and several thousands monthly... now I see a decrease of 20 or 30% .. it's too much... something wrong is happening.. I'm trying to figure out how to react about this... but I can't understand at the moment...

Will you please let us know if those general drop down of sales is a global trend or it's your new alghorith?
This is my main job and shutterstock is my main source of income and I'm worried about this situation.. because sales of new quality images are always EXTREMELY SLOW, even if the image is cool... then now the old images sells less than in the past... and so What shall we do agaist this situations?
July was always a growing months in the past year... now things are changing...

I simply don't know what to think and do...
gallofilm


Joined: 28 May 2010
Posts: 25

Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:31 am     Reply with quote

davidarts wrote:
Hi SS and hi everyone,

As I've already said in many other trhreads, I've seen a big Drop Down in sales...
Maybe it's because of this new search alghotitm, even if it's only an option to select?
I used to sell hundreds of images daily and several thousands monthly... now I see a decrease of 20 or 30% .. it's too much... something wrong is happening.. I'm trying to figure out how to react about this... but I can't understand at the moment...

Will you please let us know if those general drop down of sales is a global trend or it's your new alghorith?
This is my main job and shutterstock is my main source of income and I'm worried about this situation.. because sales of new quality images are always EXTREMELY SLOW, even if the image is cool... then now the old images sells less than in the past... and so What shall we do agaist this situations?
July was always a growing months in the past year... now things are changing...

I simply don't know what to think and do...


Hi,
I'm relatively new here and the activity going around my uploads is much smaller in size than yours. However, I used to sell daily. I've never had so many days without a sale until a few days ago, and it's still like this until now. I'm not sure what the reasons are.
gallofilm


Joined: 28 May 2010
Posts: 25

Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:33 am     Reply with quote

rhombur wrote:
Quote:
Why not give the photographer the opportunity to prioritize the,say 5 most important keywords


This is done at other places, and I do not like that idea. I often feel that I finally gave priority to the wrong keywords without having a chance to do any correction.

However, a general problem of the keywords is the translation from other languages into English (I assume English is used most frequently here). It is basically a good idea since it saves me a lot of time to re-keyword anything from german to english, but often the results are, hm, somewhat questionable - and will push me back in terms of that 'relevant' search.

Which does not change the fact that the idea is basically one of the better ones.


Also, this would make uploading photos a longer process. I wouldn't like it either.
semmickphoto


Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Posts: 6491
Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place

Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:03 am     Reply with quote

elm98 wrote:
still quite new, very small portfolio but since this was introduced I've not had a single sale, i was wondering why . i was getting more sales when i only had a few images - it seems the more images i have the less sales ?????


Your portfolio has somewhat LCV photos and you need to add more photos. If you joined in february 2012, you should have about 4 pages by now if you want to keep your sales momentum going.
dinhphuc


Joined: 08 Jul 2012
Posts: 1

Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:39 am     Reply with quote

I like it a lot, this also makes it possible for older pictures to be sold i guess.

Im relevant :D
gallofilm


Joined: 28 May 2010
Posts: 25

Post Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:25 am     Reply with quote

After the sales dip they have not picked up again. Fortunately the same pics started selling well somewhere else, but I hope this new system will not stay this way here.
 
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