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cyborgwitch

Joined: 19 Dec 2010
Posts: 456
Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:42 am
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Why is the keyword "logo" forbidden, yet when I type in that exact word in search, the site returns 112 pages of result where the word is allowed?
It baffles me really. Why are the standards not equal for everyone? |
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theohrm
Joined: 16 Aug 2009
Posts: 455
Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:49 am
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Checking the keywords of the most recent suggests they are turning up because "logo" is used in the title.
The reason "logo" is banned as a keyword is because the license doesn't allow use as a logo. |
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akaiser

Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Posts: 2379
Location: Munich
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:12 am
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Some time ago, I came across something funny, too:
You can't even type in the word "colored", but get an error message saying "you may not use ..."! Apparently it's regarded as not "politically correct" (what I do understand, of course), but in my case it was about a (hand-) colored illustration of some birds. *g I mean ... I always thought "we Germans" were pretty sensitive regarding such, but now things are getting complicated for me, too. ;) |
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cyborgwitch

Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:29 am
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Well, in my case I didn't use the word "logo" as a keyword, but I used it in the title. That isn't allowed either. I'm OK with that, but shouldn't the same rules apply for everyone? Or perhaps those that use the word have changed the title and/or keywords after their work was approved?
@akaiser: "Colored" isn't allowed, but is "color" permitted? |
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akaiser

Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Location: Munich
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:15 am
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It is. "Hand-colored" also works and both british versions ("colour", "hand-coloured").
And yes! The rules should apply to everyone in the same way. If it's technically possible to completely block a word like "colored", they could do the same with "logo", right? |
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cyborgwitch

Joined: 19 Dec 2010
Posts: 456
Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:19 am
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Agreed! |
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daemys

Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 2092
Location: Where the president cosplays a white crane
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:07 am
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The word logo was acceptable before it was forbidden |
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akaiser

Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Location: Munich
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:38 am
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| daemys wrote: | | The word logo was acceptable before it was forbidden |
Sure, but *when*? I got a rejection for using the word "logo" as a keyword for my first set of 3d-icons - and that was at least three years ago. *g |
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evaners

Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 6588
Location: NO! We aren't there yet!
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:01 pm
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Hi everyone! Yes, logo is forbidden and is not supposed to be used in the keywords, title or in the image itself. But it does often get past the reviewers, and those people are the lucky ones since their image will be found by the buyers who obviously don't know the rules we follow, and search for logos.
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The word "colored" in the United States has very old racial meanings. It was used derogatorily toward African Americans and has a very ugly history. Imagine that there was a time that you could see two drinking fountains, and above one was a sign that said "Whites Only" and a sign on the other that said "Colored". Also on bathrooms, restaurant entrances, etc.
It breaks my heart to say that could happen in my country -- and only 50 years ago. So there are, naturally, some bad feelings about such words here still. |
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akaiser

Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Location: Munich
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:17 pm
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I know, Evan.
I just didn't get the problem all at once, because I was referring to the technique of "coloring" an illustration. I'm a little slow, sometimes. :)
Btw: Strangely, the corresponding German word "farbig", which has also a double meaning, isn't offending at all. It hasn't the same tragic history, but someone eventually decided it was better than saying "black" or something else.
(In German, it's really difficult to stay "up to date" regarding such. *g Instead of "Ausländer" which translates as "foreigner", we need to say "Bürger mit Migrationshintergrund" now, which - indeed! - hits the point of most discussions much better, because it also includes second (or more) generation immigrants, but it's pretty complicated instead. And sometimes there may be a legitimate reason to point out a difference.)
Well, ... language is always a matter of context, while I'll never understand why *some* people - obviously - need someone to take things out on. Someone who's "different" - no matter in which way. "Normal" people will never get that. Even more if you're German and aware of our history.
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akaiser

Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Location: Munich
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:27 pm
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I still don't feel offended, if someone calls me "blond", btw. ;)
*the last laugh is on me* |
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daemys

Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Location: Where the president cosplays a white crane
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:28 am
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| akaiser wrote: | | daemys wrote: | | The word logo was acceptable before it was forbidden |
Sure, but *when*? I got a rejection for using the word "logo" as a keyword for my first set of 3d-icons - and that was at least three years ago. *g |
In 2007 I submitted many illustrations with logo keyword. Then they introduced the prohibition. |
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akaiser

Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Location: Munich
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:03 am
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| daemys wrote: | | akaiser wrote: | | daemys wrote: | | The word logo was acceptable before it was forbidden |
Sure, but *when*? I got a rejection for using the word "logo" as a keyword for my first set of 3d-icons - and that was at least three years ago. *g |
In 2007 I submitted many illustrations with logo keyword. Then they introduced the prohibition. |
Yeah, ... you hardly get used to things and *woooooosh!* it's over again. ;) |
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jeanpierre

Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Posts: 251
Location: Quebec
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:46 pm
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| daemys wrote: | | The word logo was acceptable before it was forbidden |
:O) |
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