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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:53 am
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Hi, I'm working on my first ten vectors and I hope someone could help me. I've worked hard on this image and I really don't want to change it much, so can you tell me what can I do to reduce the size of it, it's about 19MB and I've done deleting the unused panel items, downsizing of my artboard and all of the artwork, and still isn't small enough... |
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theohrm
Joined: 16 Aug 2009
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Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:10 am
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If you post a picture of it here, hopefully some of the Illustrator experts will be able to point out the type of things which cause large file sizes.
On a side note - SS sells the raster and vector versions of the files separately (you'll notice many of us have two of each image in our ports: the raster and the vector). We usually advise people to submit the raster versions for their application to avoid getting rejected (and made to wait a month to reapply) for a daft error, like forgetting to convert text to outlines. |
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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Location: Serbia
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:13 pm
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first of, thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. And here it is...
also, thank you for the tip. I'm seriously considering putting only jpg images first. But, is there a difference? I mean, is it some kind of advantage putting both vectors and jpg images, are vectors more desirable or popular? |
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davidarts
Joined: 12 Jul 2008
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Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:07 pm
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Hi,
I always have such a problem ... but I can solve this by downsizing the artboard to 10 or 20 pixel side (in the worst cases)... you should try...
the illustration should go under 15MB...
try it!!!
:-D
David |
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Marijo Saric
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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Location: Croatia
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:16 am
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If you work in illustrator, you have in EPS saving options by default in preview - Format set to TIFF click on it and put none then save it. That should largely reduce your file. |
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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Location: Serbia
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:26 am
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| davidarts wrote: | Hi,
I always have such a problem ... but I can solve this by downsizing the artboard to 10 or 20 pixel side (in the worst cases)... you should try...
the illustration should go under 15MB...
try it!!!
:-D
David |
Me too, and it's becoming infuriating! I've already downsized the artboard to about 30 by 35, so I don't think that would make too much of a difference, it would only reduce my file size for about 0.2MB... aaa i need at least 17MB, it's not fair!:D Thank's though, I appreciate it David! |
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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Location: Serbia
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:39 am
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| Marijo Saric wrote: | | If you work in illustrator, you have in EPS saving options by default in preview - Format set to TIFF click on it and put none then save it. That should largely reduce your file. |
Yes, I already done that. I'm always saving files without a preview, and I almost always end up downsizing my artwork... So, I don't know what am I doing wrong... Are there some effects or tools that make my artwork this large and I should avoid using? |
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apotterdd
Joined: 10 Apr 2009
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Location: Trying to get my latinum back from Quark
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:21 pm
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Transparancies have a lot to do with it too. I had a file at the beginning of the year that I was having the same problem with. It ended up being around 50 mb. I ended up ditching it and redoing it severely reducing the amount of transparancies.
I'm also not sure if the 3d revolve tool also has anything to do with how big the file gets. I've only used it a few times. |
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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Location: Serbia
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:49 pm
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| apotterdd wrote: | Transparancies have a lot to do with it too. I had a file at the beginning of the year that I was having the same problem with. It ended up being around 50 mb. I ended up ditching it and redoing it severely reducing the amount of transparancies.
I'm also not sure if the 3d revolve tool also has anything to do with how big the file gets. I've only used it a few times. |
Oh, I see... I guess it could be, it turns out I have quite a number of transparent objects... so I'm definitely gonna have to redo it. And did you have any problems with 3D revolve? It left me with lots of open paths and those are not allowed, right?
Thank's so much for your reply! |
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davidarts
Joined: 12 Jul 2008
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Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:06 pm
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I think that the problem is about the BLEND tool. I use Blend to do fake shadows and point of lights... and those part occupy a lot of space.. honestly I don't know why...
However... it's very very strange that downsizing the artboard you're not able to be within 15 MB... try the smallest possible...I have a vector collection that has 6 pixel on a side :-D :-D just to be within 15 MB ahahah |
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apotterdd
Joined: 10 Apr 2009
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Location: Trying to get my latinum back from Quark
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:06 pm
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The 3d revolve I never expanded as it broke stuff up into tiny little slices and pieces. Same with color blends some will expand them others won't. It's up to personal preference. I think I only have 2 files that I did that on and I didn't expand them.
You are correct open paths are a no-no. Also any text needs to be outlined, no rasterizing effects like drop shadows and feathering.
Anything else you need to know don't hesitate to ask. |
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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Location: Serbia
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:06 am
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| davidarts wrote: | I think that the problem is about the BLEND tool. I use Blend to do fake shadows and point of lights... and those part occupy a lot of space.. honestly I don't know why...
However... it's very very strange that downsizing the artboard you're not able to be within 15 MB... try the smallest possible...I have a vector collection that has 6 pixel on a side :-D :-D just to be within 15 MB ahahah |
I used blend, but not that much. Mostly mash and gradients... And 3D revolve, which i'm gonna have to go around..
I know, I thought that would do the trick... but get this, I downsize it to some level and it makes my file size little smaller, and if I continue downsizing, it gets larger?? I bet you never had that situation :D And omg, 6px is so small :)I wasn't sure if there was some bottom limit of the artboard size.. thought that SS wouldn't accept for some reason that kind of dimensions, but why wouldn't they, it can easily scale up :) |
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wonderfullife
Joined: 29 Mar 2012
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Location: Serbia
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:44 am
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| apotterdd wrote: | The 3d revolve I never expanded as it broke stuff up into tiny little slices and pieces. Same with color blends some will expand them others won't. It's up to personal preference. I think I only have 2 files that I did that on and I didn't expand them.
You are correct open paths are a no-no. Also any text needs to be outlined, no rasterizing effects like drop shadows and feathering.
Anything else you need to know don't hesitate to ask. |
So, definitely 3D is of the limit... The question is, what can I use? :) almost every effect leaves bitmaps..Even radial gradient sometimes.. When I first started doing these illustrations, I was woo hoo, look at all of the stuff I can use..And when I got a little info on SS, I ended up redoing all that I worked until then, and it took me twice as much time.. And thanks again for your help |
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darla
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:24 am
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Radial gradients should not be a problem. I have heard that some programs will create a problem if you apply the gradient, then change the shape of the object.
So, try getting the shape the way you want it, then applying the gradient.
Do that with blends, as well.
I think what's getting you the most on size in this image is the papaya seeds. That's a LOT of objects. Try drawing them as a mass of brown with some highlights, instead of rendering each seed.
It's nice when you can just use the program to make everything, but sometimes you have to actually draw things. |
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iris42
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:21 am
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| apotterdd wrote: | | The 3d revolve I never expanded as it broke stuff up into tiny little slices and pieces. |
I've used revolve before and expanded it, but it was a 'simpler' shape. Basically making a 'globe'. Once I made the globe, I expanded, took the contintent shapes out and put them on another circle with simpler shading, because the revolve shading turned into a mess of tiny shapes. Not sure if that would work with the fruit shapes. maybe 'combine' a bunch of the shapes to keep the overall shape and then redo do the shading? Hmmm... it might be easier to just trace the 'revolved' shapes... |
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