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andresr

Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Posts: 1671
Location: London www.andresr.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:36 pm
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| Eskild wrote: | Why not loose those: Flia+CSP+GM+SSP)=3%
3% = you could spend your time better shooting more for the others, and not opload to the "3%" ????
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I totally agree with you. Actually my girlfriend uploads my photos to flia and Gm, she kindly helps out :) otherwise I wouldn't; at least not until they get some sales regularly. Also they only have started and I believe them 2 have a future.
To CSP I haven't uploaded over a month now.
Anyway this is not the place to comment about other sites. I am just happy the way microstock industry is at the moment and how it is developing, even the fact IS has exclusive members. |
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kristofer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 41
Location: Scotland
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:13 pm
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I agree, it's a good idea to branch out as much as possible (although at the moment my only serious stock effort is here).
By the way, your graph perhaps isn't that reassuring as it shows a large slump right at the end which coincides with a sudden decline in sales for myself (I had triple last month of what I've had this month). Let's hope it bounces back for October! |
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rkierb@aol.com
Joined: 14 May 2005
Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:05 pm
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Guys,
yesterday I decided to go exclusive with ShutterStock. Why you may ask, others wrote in this forum use as much stock sites as you can, I say evaluate effort and result and make your move.
As many others, I uploaded the images to 4 (including SS) sites. I have evaluated the effort of downloading, writing description and keywords and rejected percentage and the amount of downloads during the last 8 month. The result is that I will stay until the end of the year exclusive at ShutterStock as a try out.
Has anybody of you guys made the same decision, what was your result.
Regards
LouLou |
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hsfelix
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 47
Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:06 pm
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| shutterstock wrote: | Why going exclusive with another agency is a bad idea:
1) You will be just another exclusive among hundreds vying for the same resources from one company. You can't go to another company to complain- you are stuck with a single channel.
2) Competition is good for the industry and YOU! Let's say you don't like the way they are treating a certain rule/idea/etc. You have nowhere to go! At least you can use your vote by concentrating your efforts on another agency until the other one gets back in line. Why give up your voting power? In fact, these other agencies don't even let you talk about other stock agencies on their forums. You give up a lot to go exclusive.
3) Why sell your photos in one place for just a 10% increase at that one agency? Tons of photographers are telling me every day that they make more with ShutterStock than anywhere else! Why not make cash here, AND everywhere else?
4) Staying with ShutterStock means being part of something new and changing. We consider all of your suggestions - and implement them back into the system as quickly as we can. What happened when we weren't processing photos fast enough? We hired a night reviewer who worked on Christmas Eve! What other agency will review your photos on a major holiday?
5) I don't like exclusivity -- and i don�t plan to lock anybody into ShutterStock. I think you guys should sell your photos everywhere and make as much money as possible! Besides - the model we have here is just one model... Your photos may do well here some parts of the year, and better in other places other parts of the year.
6) Other places may try to convince you that going exclusive is a good business idea. It is exactly the opposite! If you aren't convinced of that, go back to (1) and do not proceed until you agree. ;)
7) Our traffic is increasing. Sales are increasing. If you don�t believe me, check out our Alexa Graph. If that doesn�t convince you to stay here � what will?
7) Finally, I would hate to see any of you go!
Would welcome any feedback you guys have.
Jon Oringer, Founder and CEO
ShutterStock, Inc. |
After some research I've found this thread, where Jon explains why we shouldn't go exclusive in any site.
Jon, if you don't mind, I'll post my opinion :)
It's known that Shutterstock it's the best agency of all. I don't make much money in stock photography, but without shutterstock I would make 10% of what I do today.
And this line of thinking works for big earners too. I talk to a LOT of people that make a lot of money in stock photography and the great majority of them said that shutterstock represents next to 70% of their monthly earnings.
So you may say: go on as until now and continue to earn that 70% + the other 30% on other sites...
You're right.
The problem is that the other agencies pay poorly and treat us like garbage. Also use some weird algorithms in searches and benefit some and put others down...
Suppose Shutterstock opens exclusivity.
What would happen?
And it doesn't need to be full exclusivity, only exclusivity in some work that the contributor choose...
A bunch of contributors would come to SS and the other agencies would have less fresh content, so the Buyers would come to SS too and we all would win with it. |
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sanka

Joined: 01 Jul 2005
Posts: 243
Location: Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:12 pm
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completly agree with you, Hugo
All the agencies have exclusivity except the one we want... |
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peteklinger

Joined: 01 Aug 2007
Posts: 1030
Location: Great Place By a Great Lake
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:05 pm
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| sanka wrote: | completly agree with you, Hugo
All the agencies have exclusivity except the one we want... |
+100%
Funny that someone would find a blast from the past, going back to 2004! WOW! Talk about bringing back a dead thread... (and a good one)
I think that exclusive on SS might be counter to the crowdsourcing principles. Everything from everywhere from anyone.
That's not saying that if SS offered a RF exclusive, I wouldn't jump on it in seconds. I would! Any small increase and I'd be happy dealing with one RF Microstock agency. But that's just me.
Photo exclusive would work too. I'm sure someone would take all the rejects that I get for "Shadows". (because they already do) |
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hsfelix
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 47
Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:20 pm
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| peteklinger wrote: | | sanka wrote: | completly agree with you, Hugo
All the agencies have exclusivity except the one we want... |
+100%
Funny that someone would find a blast from the past, going back to 2004! WOW! Talk about bringing back a dead thread... (and a good one)
I think that exclusive on SS might be counter to the crowdsourcing principles. Everything from everywhere from anyone.
That's not saying that if SS offered a RF exclusive, I wouldn't jump on it in seconds. I would! Any small increase and I'd be happy dealing with one RF Microstock agency. But that's just me.
Photo exclusive would work too. I'm sure someone would take all the rejects that I get for "Shadows". (because they already do) |
I didn't notice the date, WOW :D
I've only made a search with "exclusive" :D
Glad I'm not alone in my opinion, thanks Pete and Rui. |
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