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susumis


Joined: 19 May 2007
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:17 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you all !!!
sharond


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:52 pm     Reply with quote

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The image you take with a P&S may be artistically perfect, and technically great printed large, but when some reviewers find a little bit of noise at 100%, that image may very well be rejected.


I have a Nikon 5700 and it's pretty useless. If anyone gets images accepted with this camera I'd like to know how they do it. Mine is so noisy my noise software doesn't even help. I have a few on the site I was able to clean up good enough to submit but hundreds I can't use here. Go with a DSLR.
budgaugh


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Location: New Hampshire

Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:02 pm     Reply with quote

Point and shoot won't let you blur backgrounds out like this.



repistu


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:30 pm     Reply with quote

I have started with a Canon Ixus 5MP. I have got accepted here from my first try with pictures taken with this camera. I've sold many images since then and still do.

Last year, I have upgraded to Canon Powershot G7 - 10MP. I get better pictures, and my sales have increased, but my acceptance ratio has remained more or less the same. I think the acceptance ratio is more dependable on your selection process and attention to details, than the hardware.

I only rarely downsize images, but use noise reduction on about 50%-60% of my pictures.

I have covered my investment in equipment several times already from stock. Recently, I can support most of my traveling budget from selling photos, but I am still far from making a living from this (at least in Switzerland).

I am thinking about upgrading to a G9, but I wouldn't go further (DSLR), as I am not ready to sacrifice the convenience to use of compact digital cameras.

Hope it helps,
Bogdan
elisanth


Joined: 20 Oct 2007
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:49 pm     Reply with quote

My equipment is Adobe Illustrator.
I have digital camera, it is not so good, but I'm planning to study photography soon. I think that the most important thing is your mind, your skills to be able to do something, But of course you can do nothing with 2 mp camera ;)
gualberto


Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:21 pm     Reply with quote

repistu wrote:
I have started with a Canon Ixus 5MP. I have got accepted here from my first try with pictures taken with this camera. I've sold many images since then and still do.

Last year, I have upgraded to Canon Powershot G7 - 10MP. I get better pictures, and my sales have increased, but my acceptance ratio has remained more or less the same. I think the acceptance ratio is more dependable on your selection process and attention to details, than the hardware.

I only rarely downsize images, but use noise reduction on about 50%-60% of my pictures.

I have covered my investment in equipment several times already from stock. Recently, I can support most of my traveling budget from selling photos, but I am still far from making a living from this (at least in Switzerland).

I am thinking about upgrading to a G9, but I wouldn't go further (DSLR), as I am not ready to sacrifice the convenience to use of compact digital cameras.

Hope it helps,
Bogdan


Nice Port!
imacon


Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:43 pm     Reply with quote

budgaugh wrote:
Point and shoot won't let you blur backgrounds out like this.





How many portraits like that does SS need?

To the author of the original message: you'd have to decide what are you going to shoot. Portraits, isolated objects on white, sports, nudes, fashion, landscapes, etc. Only then you purchase your equipment. What's good for macro shots (G9 and other super-P/S can do wonders) may be not good for sports.
bichon


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:03 pm     Reply with quote

You MUST buy the PHOTO IDEA INDEX by Jim Krause.
He teaches CREATIVITY , alot which may help in stock photography. even the table top shoots.
And I think he did most if not all with a Point and Shoot. people i have recommended it to EVEN KEEP IN THIER CAR and re-read during red lights.
(i read alot in red light areas too before going in for a quickie)
a must read for those who have taken photo courses, which in many cases, do not teach the creative angle...
i repeat ... a must read ......

http://www.amazon.com/Photo-Idea-Index-Jim-Krause/dp/158180766X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200528186&sr=8-1
redcloud


Joined: 10 Jan 2008
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:29 pm     Reply with quote

Actually, while you have little control over a point and shoot, you can still have small depth of field if you get in really close.

But, all my 10 first images were rejected...limited commercial value. So, I have to wait 30 days + I have to use my point and shoot. Maybe on day I can afford a REAL camera, but for now I just can't afford it.
bichon


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:11 pm     Reply with quote

redcloud wrote:
Actually, while you have little control over a point and shoot, you can still have small depth of field if you get in really close.

But, all my 10 first images were rejected...limited commercial value. So, I have to wait 30 days + I have to use my point and shoot. Maybe on day I can afford a REAL camera, but for now I just can't afford it.


Ken Rockwell, as well as many others who review cameras on the web, LOVES the nikon D40 and it is highly rated and on the verge of distinction. i believe production is ending. My wife bought one for $499 with the kit lens.

For the best possible camera for just about anything, fun or serious, I use my Nikon D40.

I own more expensive cameras, but whenever I grab a camera for my own personal vacations or family photos, it's almost always my remarkable Nikon D40. There isn't anything reasonable I can't do with Nikon's least expensive D40.


http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm
bichon


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Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:14 pm     Reply with quote

budgaugh wrote:
Point and shoot won't let you blur backgrounds out like this.





i believe it does, if your background is far enough away ... no ????
jorgeinthewater


Joined: 26 Jun 2006
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Location: Redland's

Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:35 pm     Reply with quote

bichon wrote:
budgaugh wrote:
Point and shoot won't let you blur backgrounds out like this.





i believe it does, if your background is far enough away ... no ????




The next three where part of acceptance into ss group.




All done on Nikon 5900 P&S but then again that was in the summer of 06 when everything seemed to get accepted!
hauntfactory


Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Location: California

Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:37 pm     Reply with quote

joeygil wrote:
Reality check.

Microstock reviewers are notorious pixel peepers. The image you take with a P&S may be artistically perfect, and technically great printed large, but when some reviewers find a little bit of noise at 100%, that image may very well be rejected. While SS might not be as bad as other places, the non-exclusive nature of microstock suggests you may want to submit images to other agencies too.

As such, I recommend an SLR, as they are much less noisy than P&S, due to the larger sensor (higher signal to noise ratio).

Consensus is you can't really go wrong with either Nikon or Canon. Other systems seem a limited by the lens selection.



I couldn't agree more. I had an Olympus E-10 (yeah, it's old) - too many rejections for noise. I bumped up to an Olympus E-500 - too much noise! Damn, ok. Now I have a Fuji S3 Pro - no noise issues. Even at ISO 100, the Olympus E-500 produced too much noise - at least for microstock.

I have experience with the Canon Rebel and don't like the oversaturated colors and color noise. Plus it's a camera that's "dumbed down" to lower the price . . . so no pc sync terminal for flash photography, etc.

I recommend the Canon 20D as a budget camera, 30D, or Nikon D70. And get expensive glass - F2.8.

Save your money and get good stuff.
hauntfactory


Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Location: California

Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:41 pm     Reply with quote

bichon wrote:
You MUST buy the PHOTO IDEA INDEX by Jim Krause.
He teaches CREATIVITY , alot which may help in stock photography. even the table top shoots.
And I think he did most if not all with a Point and Shoot. people i have recommended it to EVEN KEEP IN THIER CAR and re-read during red lights.
(i read alot in red light areas too before going in for a quickie)
a must read for those who have taken photo courses, which in many cases, do not teach the creative angle...
i repeat ... a must read ......

http://www.amazon.com/Photo-Idea-Index-Jim-Krause/dp/158180766X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200528186&sr=8-1


Thanks for the tip on the book!!
hauntfactory


Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Location: California

Post Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:43 pm     Reply with quote

bichon wrote:
redcloud wrote:
Actually, while you have little control over a point and shoot, you can still have small depth of field if you get in really close.

But, all my 10 first images were rejected...limited commercial value. So, I have to wait 30 days + I have to use my point and shoot. Maybe on day I can afford a REAL camera, but for now I just can't afford it.


Ken Rockwell, as well as many others who review cameras on the web, LOVES the nikon D40 and it is highly rated and on the verge of distinction. i believe production is ending. My wife bought one for $499 with the kit lens.

For the best possible camera for just about anything, fun or serious, I use my Nikon D40.

I own more expensive cameras, but whenever I grab a camera for my own personal vacations or family photos, it's almost always my remarkable Nikon D40. There isn't anything reasonable I can't do with Nikon's least expensive D40.


http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm


I personally go by the Phil Askey reviews on www.dpreview.com

You can download full-res image samples from a wide variety of cameras and evaluate them yourself. You can also read the reviews and make an educated choice.
 
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