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tensquared


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Ventura, CA

Post Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:39 pm     Reply with quote

If we upload footage with audio, should we also submit a version without audio?
filmchild


Joined: 04 Nov 2006
Posts: 99

Post Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:48 pm     Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother submitting videos with audio at all, unless the audio is somehow really relevant to the video. Most editors don't use the stock audio in the first place and will probably delete the track anyway.
tensquared


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Ventura, CA

Post Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:18 pm     Reply with quote

Great, thanks! But on the rare occasion when we do upload one with sound, should we also upload one without?
filmchild


Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:16 am     Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother to upload two seperate ones, editors can get rid of the audio track very easily if they don't need it.
varius


Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 5593
Location: Bietigheim - Bissingen, Germany

Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:44 am     Reply with quote

filmchild wrote:
I wouldn't bother to upload two seperate ones, editors can get rid of the audio track very easily if they don't need it.


Exactly.

However, good sound professionally recorded with close to no ambient noise, will make your footage more valueable. Noone needs wind noise on a windy scene. But a rare bird singing sells better with pro sound recording.
mantonino


Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Posts: 1090
Location: Syracuse, NY

Post Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:11 pm     Reply with quote

In one of mine is a waterfall with the water noise - that good or bad?
stefgo


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 320
Location: somewhere on the planet

Post Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:29 pm     Reply with quote

mantonino wrote:
In one of mine is a waterfall with the water noise - that good or bad?


If it´s water SOUND it´s good and you should leave it in. If it´s NOISE you should remove it.

Actually I came to the conclusion to pay more attention to the audio than I did so far. Motion / time change and audio are the two very things that distinguish a video from a still, thus, a clip without sound is only half a clip, at least with respect to clips where you would expect an audio (e.g. a train passing by).

So, I remove the sound
-if copyright problems could occur (especially music and clearly identifiable voices without having a model release)
-if it´s unrelated to the clip or even "destroying" it (eg. I got more traffic noise from a nearby street than splash sound of the fountain I filmed)
-if it has not been recorded properly: (wind) noise, over/undermodulation...

I keep the sound
-if it´s related to the clip. My cam is capable of recording clear stereo audio with little camera noise which might not be sufficient for a DVD project but for a clip that is only shown for some seconds on TV I think the quality is good enough (The best way to reduce noise is to record the audio close to the source at the highest possible level without distorsion).

I use an external microphone when I have the chance to record a clip with good audio.

I try to record good general atmospheres for let´s say a minute or even longer and build up my own little sound pool so that the next time a forest scene gets disturbed by the nice sound of a power saw I can replace the audio by my own alternative.

Greetings,
Stefan
moishe
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Joined: 16 Dec 2005
Posts: 314

Post Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:26 am     Reply with quote

Footage may (and should) be submitted with audio, provided that the audio does not contain any form of music (this includes everything from marching bands to Christina Aguilera) or copyrighted sound material. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Moishe
 
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