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dzain


Joined: 21 Jan 2007
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Location: The Netherlands

Post Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:48 pm     Reply with quote

Because of this new rules I decided to upload some nice pictures of Asian kids. But all 3 are rejected with the note: contact Antony for further information.

It's about: 15015967, 15016222, 15016669

What did I do wrong with those? I looked up other editorial kids-shots from Asia and those are keyworded about the same as I did.

There where no technical problems mentioned.
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:26 am     Reply with quote

Hello dzain:

The first thing to do would be to follow instructions and contact me via email.

This is what you submitted as captions:

15015967 - Kathmandu Nepal: local kids, brother and sister in front of their house

15016669 - Dali, China; Enthusiastic Chinese school kids

15016222 - Kathmandu Nepal: 3 beautiful young local girls dressed in pink

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I would recommend that you re-read the beginning of this post and then think about what you submitted. You should be able to clearly see why your images were not approved. (The issue here was not with your keywords, this time.)

If you have additional questions, please contact me via email.

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock
imagex


Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 310
Location: www.samdcruz.com

Post Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:24 pm     Reply with quote

so where as beore when it said about submitting photos, i.e. people in asia, if there is no model release to simply put it as editorial, you have changed your whole view and policy on this?
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:44 pm     Reply with quote

Hello:

You need a caption. Make the image newsworthy. Ask yourself, "what makes this image special?" Why is this of interest to a domestic or int'l audience?

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock
javaduke


Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Posts: 72

Post Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:06 pm     Reply with quote

Sorry for maybe asking an FAQ but I'd like to clarify something. I just got back grom trip to Las Vegas where I shot some general views of the Strip, Bellagio fountains etc. Of course, there are copyrighted logos, names and buildings everywhere, there's no way to shoot anything in Vegas without having a copyrighted thing in your shot :) I do have some Las Vegas nightscenes in my Shutterstock portfolio already, they are marked as Editorial and yet they sell pretty well. They are definitely not newsworthy, however, I believe, magazines and papers still may use them for illustrations. So I'm wondering what would happen, if I submit some more of those images? Will they all be rejected even though I will mark them as Editorial and provide captions like LAS VEGAS, JULY 22 - The Las Vegas Strip at night?
Again, I apologize for a possible FAQ but I just want to make sure I understand it correctly.
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:44 pm     Reply with quote

javaduke wrote:
Sorry for maybe asking an FAQ but I'd like to clarify something. I just got back grom trip to Las Vegas where I shot some general views of the Strip, Bellagio fountains etc. Of course, there are copyrighted logos, names and buildings everywhere, there's no way to shoot anything in Vegas without having a copyrighted thing in your shot :) I do have some Las Vegas nightscenes in my Shutterstock portfolio already, they are marked as Editorial and yet they sell pretty well. They are definitely not newsworthy, however, I believe, magazines and papers still may use them for illustrations. So I'm wondering what would happen, if I submit some more of those images? Will they all be rejected even though I will mark them as Editorial and provide captions like LAS VEGAS, JULY 22 - The Las Vegas Strip at night?
Again, I apologize for a possible FAQ but I just want to make sure I understand it correctly.

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Hi javaduke:

All new editorial images must conform to our new caption requirement.

An image of the Las Vega Strip is always 'newsworthy.' All you need to do is find the news angle...

example:

LAS VEGAS - JULY 22: Pedestrians walk past the Bellagio Hotel & Casino July 22, 2008 in Las Vegas. Approximately two million people visit the strip on a daily basis.

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Do you see the news angle? Mention a simple fact and that makes the caption (and the image) newsworthy. You could also possibly mention a basic fact about the casino, like this second sentence:

LAS VEGAS - JULY 22: Pedestrians walk past the Bellagio Hotel & Casino July 22, 2008 in Las Vegas. The Bellagio was built in 1998 and cost approximately $1.6 billion to build.

(I located the second sentence info re: the original build date and cost online at the Bellagio website). Simple and very basic. Think like a photojournalist when writing your captions.

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So, to recap: simply be factual and concise (captions should be under 200 characters (including spaces) and your editorial images should be approved as long as the captions meet our new requirement.

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock
gep


Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 656
Location: hurricane alley

Post Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:03 pm     Reply with quote

i think i see now where they are heading. however the extra caption info as a story line, can be a double sword, subject to interpretations as well as changes over time. the world of journalism as much as stock photos.
cquigley


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Location: Los Angeles & Connecticut

Post Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:01 pm     Reply with quote

Since many editorial images are time-sensitive, can you tell us if you will review editorial images more quickly than regular RF images?
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:22 pm     Reply with quote

Hello cquigley:

All images are reviewed in as timely manner as possible, including editorial.

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock
alansfreed


Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 8

Post Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:30 am     Reply with quote

I had submitted a new batch of editorial shots the other day, and they were rejected as a result of this new requirement. I think it this could have been handled a little better had I been given the opportunity to simply go back and add the appropriate description, rather than an outright rejection.

I could be missing something, but this meant I had to start over from scratch, uploading close to 20MB of images on a relatively slow DSL connection, and having to start over with the keywording, etc. Given that the only way I was made aware of this rule was through the forums, I think it would be handy if people could simply go back, edit the wording, and resubmit from there. Just a thought :)
davidarts


Joined: 12 Jul 2008
Posts: 790
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:43 am     Reply with quote

HI SS staff,

Tomorrow I'll probably run with my Harley to the "EUROPEAN BIKE WEEK" at Faaker see (faak am see) , AUSTRIA. It's the largest motorcycles event of the europe organized by Harley Davison and all the words custom bike builder.

I don't have a big experience with photo but I'm learning daily and I'll try to do some shot of the event...

Could it be interested SS to accept photos of this event? Just to know id has sense to submit them!

Thanks!

David
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:17 am     Reply with quote

Hello David,

The event sounds interesting. If you have some good images, why not try submitting them?

Remember to have a concise and relevant caption for your images. Follow format/style & write a news angle for your images: '... This event is reportedly the biggest in the world."

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock
davidarts


Joined: 12 Jul 2008
Posts: 790
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:02 am     Reply with quote

moderator wrote:
Hello David,

The event sounds interesting. If you have some good images, why not try submitting them?

Remember to have a concise and relevant caption for your images. Follow format/style & write a news angle for your images: '... This event is reportedly the biggest in the world."

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock


Thanks,
So let's hope in a blue sky with sun tommorow! :-D
cecilialim


Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 73
Location: Malaysia

Post Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:48 am     Reply with quote

moderator wrote:


Please note: Editorial images should never be digitally altered.


Does this mean that we cannot digitally correct exposure and noise as we do sometimes in post-processing?

Another question:

Do we have to recaption every old editorial image that was previously accepted so that it is in the same format as the new required captions?
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:35 am     Reply with quote

Hello cecilialim:

Good questions.

'Not altering editorial images' simply means not adding elements, or taking away elements, that should be in the image.

Examples abound in the general media: a photographer adds missles and smoke to 'enhance' his images. Another combined elements of three images into one, changing the story and thus, not being ethical at all.

Editorial images must be ethically sound. Now, what about cloning out dust bunnies and other simple level/curve adjustments? Rule of thumb is this: what you could simply do in a darkroom is generally acceptable with PhotoShop. However, changing key elements of the image to your advantage is not ethical.

Older editorial images: it is to your advantage as a submitter to update previously accepted editorial images. However, this is not a requirement at this time.

Please note: Editors appreciate a good caption. In a timely situation, a good, clean caption will help an editor make the decision to run an image from us where, ordinarily, the editor would have gone elsewhere.

I hope this post answers your questions satisfactorily.

Sincerely,

Anthony Correia
Manager, Content Acquisition
Shutterstock
 
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