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flatout1

Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 12
Location: Cape Coral, FL
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:54 pm
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Time to get photo editing software and wanted to see what you guys thought here. Budget is limited, since I'm also saving up for a new camera (Nikon D90). Photoshop seems to be mentioned more than anything, but there seems to be different kinds? Heard only CS4 works with D90 with RAW files, but seems too expensive for me (If I want a new camera in the near future). How important is using RAW for microstock?
Some I know use Elements?...Which is around my budget $80. Pros, cons of Elements?
Good places to buy from? |
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eppicphotos

Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 444
Location: BC, Canada www.eppicphotography.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:38 pm
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If your budget is around 80.00 then Photoshop is waaay beyond your budget. Even Photoshop elements is around 100.00. If you want to work with RAW files (which I recommend but that's just my opinion) and are limited to Adobe Elements, you could download Adobe's free DNG converter, convert your NEF files to DNG and then you can work with the DNG files in Elements.
If you had a few hundred dollars to work with, I'd recommend Adobe Lightroom 2.0 and then get Elements for localized file work. |
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flatout1

Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 12
Location: Cape Coral, FL
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:35 pm
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Excuse my ignorance...what is DNG?
How is it different from JPEG?
Will I be sorry for wasting $80 (Amazon) on Elements that I could have put towards PS in the future?
Is it too limiting?
What would I be giving up?
I have Vista by the way. |
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traveler1116
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 603
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:40 am
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DNG is Digital Negative, it's Adobe's raw format and what they hope will be the standard. Nikon, Canon and most others have there own raw file types. You should be able to work with raw files with the included software with your camera. You should shoot raw and if you ever get new software or when you get better at editing you will wish you had raw files instead of jpeg. Raw files have all of the info on them, jpeg's compress the file, add sharpening, noise reduction, white balance, and all sorts of things. The most important for me is the white balance, it's a lot harder to fix that with a jpeg instead of raw. Raw files can also let you get back some detail from shadows and highlights that a jpeg wont.
I would buy from Amazon because they usually cheapest, new camera equipment from BHphoto.com. |
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eppicphotos

Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 444
Location: BC, Canada www.eppicphotography.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:38 pm
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Personally I'd recommend the Adobe Lightroom/ Elements combination. You can download a free 30 day fully functioning trial version of both I believe so you can see how they work for you.
Lightroom is fantastic for organizing, working with your RAW files and adding IPTC data so your photos are stock ready. Elements or Corel Paint Shop Pro (which I use) is good for localized corrections like clone stamping and such. |
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pwkirk

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Posts: 773
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:03 pm
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I also shoot Nikon and use NX2 for the processing. I like it. I think its fairly user friendly and the cost is not prohibitive. Nx was free with the D300 but I spent another $90 and uprgrade to NX2 and I'm glad I did. you might can try it for free for a limited time but I'm not sure. |
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shensher
Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:05 pm
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GIMP is a free opensource image manipulation program that is similar in a lot of ways to Photoshop (although very limited in comparison). From what I have read, you can get it to support Nikon NEF files with something called UFRAW. I personally use Photoshop, so I can't warrant that GIMP is adequate, but since it's free, it may be worth a try.
Photoshop CS3 in fact does support the D90 NEF files, so you don't have to have CS4.
Shaun
P.S. I love my D90. Good choice. |
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flatout1

Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 12
Location: Cape Coral, FL
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:52 pm
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There seems to be a student/teacher edition of PS (my wife is a teacher)?
Does anyone know anything about these limited versions? Seems to be around $150.
I would definitely do that if it's a better choice than the others? What is the opinion of the masses?
Thanks, I'm already learning!
PS: Just learned about Picture Window Pro 4.0 from Thom's website...looks pretty good? Any users? |
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blackdoginn

Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 43
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:22 am
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I use Photoshop Elements and it does come with Camera Raw, so no need to use another program to convert files. |
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elyrae

Joined: 09 May 2007
Posts: 407
Location: Molise (Italy)
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:47 am
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You can also use free software like The Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) and for raw files the is UFRaw (http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/), I use them for all my photography :) |
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triceratops

Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 7875
Location: The other Nevada
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:59 pm
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| flatout1 wrote: | There seems to be a student/teacher edition of PS (my wife is a teacher)?
Does anyone know anything about these limited versions? Seems to be around $150.
I would definitely do that if it's a better choice than the others? What is the opinion of the masses?
Thanks, I'm already learning!
PS: Just learned about Picture Window Pro 4.0 from Thom's website...looks pretty good? Any users? |
There is an educational version of Photoshop. Should be around $180 or so. It's just as complete as the regular version; however, it is not supposed to be used for commercial purposes. It's purpose is for teaching in schools or by certain specified non-profit organizations, not for use in commercial settings. |
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shevs

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
Posts: 1658
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:20 pm
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Also: Ebay!
I quickly glanced at it and noticed CS2 for about $100 and Elements 5 for $43.
Always worth looking for bargains there.
I use PS CS3 and couldnt live without... |
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hospitalera

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3044
Location: Prague (Czech Republic) http://hospitalera.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:24 pm
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| shevs wrote: | Also: Ebay!
I quickly glanced at it and noticed CS2 for about $100 and Elements 5 for $43.
Always worth looking for bargains there.
I use PS CS3 and couldnt live without... |
Be careful with ebay, lot of pirated software there ;-( SY |
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pdimages

Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 213
Location: Kansas, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:00 pm
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I got a copy of Photoshop CS on ebay for $90 then I upgraded about 6 month later to CS3. I agree with the statement above now that I have it can't live with out. If you get a Nikon you get a trial copy of NX2 (30 days?) it works very well if not better than CS3 at converting NEF (raw) to JPG when shooting 14bit. I think NX2 is around $150 to purchase. I would say if you can't get CS4 due to budget try NX2 and see if it would work for your needs. If not go with lightroom over elements. |
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camdoc3

Joined: 30 Jun 2006
Posts: 1547
Location: trinidadimages.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:10 pm
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| pdimages wrote: | | If you get a Nikon you get a trial copy of NX2 (30 days?) . |
No longer trial its full with reg nos. |
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