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mreco


Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Posts: 1019
Location: Hampshire, UK

Post Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:16 pm     Reply with quote

i like my light tent
milinz


Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 3413
Location: Planet Earth

Post Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:51 pm     Reply with quote

Grune punkt is registered and copyrighted. So, fellow illustrators and photographers try avoiding to put it in your artwork or photos:

http://www.gruener-punkt.de/?L=1
http://www.ecoromambalaje.ro/eng/punctul_verde.php#c

And so on results from google search 'grune punkt'.

[Quote from site:]

Der Grüne Punkt Trademark
Der Grüne Punkt became an international trademark, more than 460 billions of packages are marked with this financing symbol on their labels.

The presence of Der Grüne Punkt trademark on a package shows that for that specific package a financial contribution was paid to a national package recovery organisation, according to the principles stipulated by the European Directive 04/12/EC on packages and package waste and by the each national legislation.

Der Grüne Punkt logo indicates to the buyer that the manufacturer or the importer of those products is a socially responsible company, since it took the commitment to have all its product packages recycled or recovered after being collected from the population in separate bins.

Since 15 October 2004 ECO - ROM AMBALAJE S.A. has licensee for using Der Grüne Punkt trademark in Romania .

[end quote]

So, under condition you or buyer pay licence to use grune punkt trademarked logo you, any agency and any buyer may come to deep sh...

If by some chance you have any such logo in your artworks on-line I advise replacing images without that logo.

Best Of luck to all!
stephenkirsh


Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Posts: 148
Location: California

Post Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:59 pm     Reply with quote

Maybe I missunderstood the purpose of this thread, but I'm guessing this is to discuss rejected images? If not, please delete/move this (and message me so I know)

This images was rejected because "Limited Commercial Value--We do not need this image at this time."

Seems that when I search for "closed gate" I don't see any images that are similar.
Would you guys agree with SS?

milinz


Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 3413
Location: Planet Earth

Post Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:35 am     Reply with quote

stephenkirsh wrote:
Maybe I missunderstood the purpose of this thread, but I'm guessing this is to discuss rejected images? If not, please delete/move this (and message me so I know)

This images was rejected because "Limited Commercial Value--We do not need this image at this time."

Seems that when I search for "closed gate" I don't see any images that are similar.
Would you guys agree with SS?



Place to post such images is in Critic/tips/trick forum topic.
There are many people active there and they will help you about coming with any problem you may have.
Thus, be ready to give up your ego and listen to that people.
martingillman


Joined: 05 Apr 2009
Posts: 1

Post Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:25 am     Reply with quote

Well, we all learn quickly, like the last poster said, leave the ego at the door. I got 3 silhouettes rejected for underexposure, the sunset wasnt, the subject in the foreground was black.... well that was the idea! its a silhouette. So you can imagine I was somewhat perplexed. But, what SS want is what they get, its the customer, just because I may 'think' I know better means nothing.

I used to be a songwriter, still am now and again, now you should experience the feedback in that game, blunt is too subtle a word for it, trust me the reviewers here are big fluffy kittens..
zrmedia


Joined: 05 Feb 2008
Posts: 7

Post Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:31 am     Reply with quote

martingillman wrote:
.... well that was the idea! its a silhouette. So you can imagine I was somewhat perplexed. But, what SS want is what they get, its the customer, just because I may 'think' I know better means nothing.


That's why the real artists are going elsewhere and the cookie-cutter photographers are staying here to jump through hoops and learn how to speak, shake and roll over.
soctober


Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 960
Location: www.foto-melange.com

Post Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:29 pm     Reply with quote

i find some comments in here about rejections apalling. How could people paint the reviewers as evil and full of conspiracy. this is subjective business and we need to take hint to strive for better. Whats so wrong with being rejected, work hard and come again, but you have to have the perseverance to do that.
giancarlo


Joined: 07 May 2009
Posts: 1

Post Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:37 pm     Reply with quote

I know there are about a million or so threads, but I knew about the strictness of the requirements and believed my pictures were of decent quality.

Here are 2 examples of what I submitted but was rejected.
What do you think?
Both images have reduced quality as orignals were over 7MB each.


milinz


Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 3413
Location: Planet Earth

Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:01 am     Reply with quote

giancarlo wrote:
I know there are about a million or so threads, but I knew about the strictness of the requirements and believed my pictures were of decent quality.

Here are 2 examples of what I submitted but was rejected.
What do you think?
Both images have reduced quality as orignals were over 7MB each.




Sorry dude, If I'm reviewer I'd reject those two too...
There is difference you must learn in microstock, and stock photography. That are just two of many photography categories - There are many more ways for photographers to earn some money!

The plain reason why would I reject that two of yours images is LCV or too busy backgrounds...

After all that are two OK images, also they may probably sell - but they are examples of unclean NOT MICROSTOCK images.

If you wish to sell microstock that means you must sell most of images in portfolio like hot-cakes or slowly but as ODs and ELs. Not just to upload and hope that picture will sell. If you want to upload and hope you'll sell go to Getty, upload first ten and then pay $50 for every other uploaded image there. If you are so sure it will sell then bet on it. That is main difference. If you are sure you know photography then bet on it. $50 is nothing compared to how much money you can get if your image is downloaded from Getty simply because they are not microstock.

Also, SS already has very many excellent images you may find. There are also some 'copy-cats' of that excellent images done even better than originals as well there are tons of good and mediocre microstock images. Try 'spagetti', 'pasta' or 'crucifix' in search! Compare all that images with yours rejected and try to figure out why they are rejected. Also, clever way before you upload some images would be to research what is already on-line and try to differ your uploads.
So base of images is slowly comming to its highs and only excellently executed, extraordinary, different pictures and uncovered subjects done decently may be interesting for acceptance.

I am sure that you realise that that two images you uploaded aren't 'wow' images and they may be significantly improved.

If you took your time to clone-out that yellow area on cross image it might look much better, but there are other details to be handled in that image as lines and circles on bottom part of background which are distracting too. This way it just isn't appealing and unneeded details around main subject just take from it!
First one except LCV and busy background may have uneven lighting problems too...

I wouldn't pop in here if I wanted to make anything else than frendly critique and advise what to improve! The more you improve the way you understand difference in your photos and those which are already accepted - the better (microstock) photographer you become!
milinz


Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 3413
Location: Planet Earth

Post Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:10 am     Reply with quote

zrmedia wrote:
martingillman wrote:
.... well that was the idea! its a silhouette. So you can imagine I was somewhat perplexed. But, what SS want is what they get, its the customer, just because I may 'think' I know better means nothing.


That's why the real artists are going elsewhere and the cookie-cutter photographers are staying here to jump through hoops and learn how to speak, shake and roll over.


It is not really true but I get your point zrmedia!

It was very funny comment!

;-)
ozzi


Joined: 16 Mar 2009
Posts: 9

Post Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:25 pm     Reply with quote

hello all. I think rejection is part of the game. It's the way you go about it is the difference. I can say that all of us are here to make money, SS and photographers. SS wanted to excel and keep the quality of there product to stay in the business. Photographers are trying to do the same thing. As a lot more people submit photos, the quality of work sometimes dwindle. It is great that SS are able to evaluate the photos being submitted, this differentiate who can get it or not. I had been rejected twice and finally got in the third time. What I've learned is to think in the buyers perspective instead of mine. To be more commercialize with the images I turn in. I think that's what we all have to think about. Don't get mad because the bottom line is "it's just business."
traci1002


Joined: 28 May 2009
Posts: 3

Post Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:28 pm     Reply with quote

I haven't resized the image to post here but I just had an image of a cheetah under a branch rejected as trademark/copyright infringement. I was wondering if the fact I listed the specific zoo where it was taken could be the reason?

Brand new to SS so just learning the ropes as it were :) Thanks!
njstorr


Joined: 18 May 2009
Posts: 1

Post Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:30 pm     Reply with quote

I am new to SS and always welcome comments on photo's I've taken, it helps me improve my skills.

I have submitted 2 lots of 10 photos for the site but failed to get in. The one thing I find confusing/unhelpful is when I first submitted my 10 photo's I kept a note of which ones had been approved, I then re-submitted them and different photo's to make up the 10 I needed for my second go. This time a photo that had been approved last time was rejected this time.

I know there is a standard to be upheld on the site, quite rightly so, but this varies depending on who looks at your photo's. In turn this appears to invalidate the standard the website wants, as everyone has a different perception of what it is. How are you meant to improve your photo's if different people have different views?
kenny123


Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 5589
Location: Masterton,Wairarapa, New Zealand

Post Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:25 pm     Reply with quote

njstorr wrote:
I am new to SS and always welcome comments on photo's I've taken, it helps me improve my skills.

I have submitted 2 lots of 10 photos for the site but failed to get in. The one thing I find confusing/unhelpful is when I first submitted my 10 photo's I kept a note of which ones had been approved, I then re-submitted them and different photo's to make up the 10 I needed for my second go. This time a photo that had been approved last time was rejected this time.

I know there is a standard to be upheld on the site, quite rightly so, but this varies depending on who looks at your photo's. In turn this appears to invalidate the standard the website wants, as everyone has a different perception of what it is. How are you meant to improve your photo's if different people have different views?


By taking notice of advice given and submit ten new ones each time.
usc1985


Joined: 07 May 2009
Posts: 1

Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:08 pm     Reply with quote

I was surprised when three photos that I have on isotckphoto, which have been downloaded, were rejected by Shutterstock.
I have one of a "Don't Tread On Me" flag that was taken in the middle of a cloudless sunny sky, and it was rejected for "Poor Lighting--Poor or uneven lighting, or shadows. White balance may be incorrect." I was suprised because there aren't any shadows (full sun), and when looking at the photo, the while stipes of the flag are perectly white.
I would appreciate other's comments so that I can figure out how to correct the photo.

Thafor any input.
 
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