Shutterstock Photographer Forum :: View topic - Well just pulled all my images from another site !!!!

Captured Nuance · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1670 Location: So Cal

Well just asked to have my account pulled from another site. I won't mention any names but what a pain in the butt they were. It was a canadian site and now I can concentrate fully on this stock site and my other ventures.

SS just is a better community and your images move here. There they just sit in the CAN .

Thanks Jon for all your help.

Gordo

shutterstock · Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 1881 Location: New York, NY

Why did they ask you to leave?

fncdigital · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:08 am

there are probably better sites anyway ;)

Captured Nuance · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1670 Location: So Cal

LOL that was good. No they just never moved any photos and working with them was not worth it.

Gordo

dkgilbey · Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 730 Location: Hampshire - UK

If it's the site I think it is you definately CAN do better here... I had a look at a lot of the 'other' sites out there and this is far & away better hands down, especially in terms of uploading images, as well as so many other reasons that I won't go into now.

I've tried the rest, but for me Shutterstock is the best!

Captured Nuance · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1670 Location: So Cal

You definately CAN do better here. I have known that but I just thought I would test the waters.

SS made photography fun for me again and now I can take the images I had kept separate from SS and put them here that should increase my portfolio substantialy.

THis site continues to amaze me everyday

Gordo

Joe Gough · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Poole, Dorset, UK

andresr · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:12 pm

The sales on that site are not much. But if you already went through the time to upload and join them, what have you got to lose by leaving your images there? You will get to 100 dollars eventually ......
For me it will take me another 2 months to get my 100 dollar payment from there compared to other sites where I have already received payments from.
Since I have the images ready, I upload to the other 4 sites so 1 more site that gives me 100 dollars every four months can't hurt. It's still money after all and it might pick up some time although if I had the choice of leaving one, that would be it.

sapsiwai · Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Mauritius

Joe Gough made a mature remark.

These micropayment sites, including SS, are giving everyone opportunities to show their work by using their platform. Its a win-win situation. One should not spit on anyone of them.

I have learnt that change is the only constant in business. If ever sales on SS decreases below normal or that take a month to approve pics, I would not remove my pics "sur un coup de tete".

Nothing personal, just my point of view.

Captured Nuance · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1670 Location: So Cal

Well you guys go ahead and do what you want. I was not spitting on anyone.
You don't have to get so defensive. I have my stuff at other sites and thats fine and they are working out fine.

Soooorrry

Gordo

Photoshow · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:33 pm

Captive Nuance, I just have to say that having seen your images at 100% I understand why you were experiencing difficulty getting some of them approved at a site where the Terms of Service specifically state that "Although you do not have to be a professional photographer, you should have professional quality images."

I have a lot of first hand experience with this site having submitted well over 1,400 images to it in the past few months. It is true they place high standards on an image but they have their reasons for their standards, just as all the other agencies have reason for their submission standards.

Quality issues aside to come here and fire up an anti campaign against the site only shows the true level of your professional acumen.

Each site has something different to offer to the photographers . Some has more tolerance then others for specific types of defects in images such as noise, softness or potential trademark / copyright issues.

In a well rounded business plan of distribution the professional or semi professional photographer will find that each available site has something to offer them in terms of generating revenue and gaining exposure for their work. IMHO to leave any site only a couple of days after your first images were approved shows a lack of vision on your part and suggests to me that perhaps your bruised ego has prevented you from fully considered a long term plan for your stock photography endeavor.

Best of luck to you here Captured Nuance, this is a great site with a business model that so far is proving to be quite effective and beneficial to us as photographers. My images do very well here and I look forward to the sustained growth that SS has thus far shown. Yet as my images actually sell well on all the sites I offer them on I realize that it would be a bad business choice for me to leave here or anywhere else today because I was bruised from a rejection. Rejections are a part of this business and if a photographer can not learn to accept them with a little dignity then eventually his ego will cause him to leave every site that offers him a means of distributing select images and being compensated for that distribution.

Captured Nuance · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1670 Location: So Cal

Photoshow I saw your images there and they are great. I am sorry you feel mine are not of quality. And to assume that it is a rejection bruise you do not know me at all and I see no reason for your extremely unprofessional attack on my work.

But when you are done preaching you let me know maybe we can talk. I think it might be you who is bruised by my initail comment

See ya I have work to do.

Gordo

StuartE · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:53 pm

As far as CANning anything, I've found I CAN sell images anywhere, even there - the biggest drawback to any of the others is somewhat slower sales than here - for my work, at least - and the fact that so few support FTP - I can save my files into one directory, open my file manager, and drop them to ShutterStock and get on with what I'm doing - compared to that, selecting files one at a time, and having them crawl through an HTML uploader is just painful - I'm slowly putting up my 'selling' images at those other sites, because as someone said, you'll get payment eventually - unless they close before then, but after you've done all the setup, why would you close??

Even the drearily long delays till your images are reviewed elsewhere - it doesn't mean you can't do anything else while you wait... once it's up and on it's way, the time for approval is just a drop in the ocean - so it takes a few days before the image is online... are you that dependant on the next 20c, 50c, 35c??

This is my active site - Unless there's some huge change, it always will be - but just like I tell people 'why wouldn't you be here', it applies elsewhere - the sales may be slower - say 1/4 of what they are here, for me - who cares, it's a 25% bonus... :-)

Cheers,
Stuart

Joe Gough · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Poole, Dorset, UK

Nicely said Stuart.

I just can't understand people who unnecessarily denigrate other sites __ the triumphant nature of this thread's title, as well as the critical nature of CN's comments, indicates a vindictive desire to want to harm the other site, the rationale of which is simply beyond me. Their only crime it would seem was simply to have too high a standard for some of CN's work to be accepted.

All this childish 'our site's better than their site' nonsense seems to be an unwelcome import from another site who have encouraged exclusivity.

Why can't photographers realise that they stand to benefit from the services of all sites?

All they have to do is spend a little time uploading their images and then sit back and watch the money roll in __ all the hardware, software, bandwidth, marketing, billing and administration is all provided by others at no cost to them. Why criticise them for that and are they not entitled to choose the images that they accept?

Phildate · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:35 pm

Interesting reading, although I admit I was half asleep and had one eye on the Arsenal game...one of the many downside of living half-way across the world, evening kick-offs in Europe are in the early hours here...

Anyway, have to agree with Stuart and Joe. Other sites can be frustrating at times but then they also have the ability to shock you when something does sell. Uploading is a nightmare so I have less images on CS but today I made more money there than I did here, just be selling three images at $1.35 each.

I know that SS is probably going to win on most other days but there is no harm in diversifying in the terms of your portfolio and where that portfolio is based.

My 2 singapore cents worth...