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makalu
Joined: 15 Dec 2005
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Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:25 am
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How do you people feel about IRS putting their hands on your money?
Taking into account:
- US military invasions (Iraq etc)
- excessive military spending
- US anti environmental policy (no ratification of Kyoto protocol)
...I'm not OK with supporting this with my funds :/ |
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hilaryaq
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 1267
Location: www.photosfordesigns.com
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:29 am
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| makalu wrote: | How do you people feel about IRS putting their hands on your money?
Taking into account:
- US military invasions (Iraq etc)
- excessive military spending
- US anti environmental policy (no ratification of Kyoto protocol)
...I'm not OK with supporting this with my funds :/ |
I think it's weird. I already pay tax to my government on money I make. If I register for tax in America also, what's the point of paying it? They don't give me social welfare if I get sick, they don't give me the dole if I get unemployed, they don't build roads in Ireland.. so, why? What? It's crazy! Now my country is at 0% anyway, but I fundamentally object to registering for income tax in a foreign country.. so yeah.. oh well, good while it lasted! |
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kropewnicki
Joined: 25 Jan 2008
Posts: 548
Location: Somerville, Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:31 am
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What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
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makalu
Joined: 15 Dec 2005
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Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:36 am
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| kropewnicki wrote: | | What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
That's quite logical. Everyone's profits should be taxed in the country of residence. USA is probably the only country that tries to directly put hands on foreigners' profits. |
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hilaryaq
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: www.photosfordesigns.com
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:42 am
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| kropewnicki wrote: | | What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
What about the fact that my company, is an Irish company, and pays taxes to Irish revenue. Does anyone care? No! :) |
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kropewnicki
Joined: 25 Jan 2008
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Location: Somerville, Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:51 am
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| kropewnicki wrote: | | What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
The Original Posters question was if you object to USA policies do you object to paying the IRS directly?
My point was, if you submit your images to SS you pay the IRS indirectly through the taxes on profits of SS and the salaries paid to the 60+ employees of SS.
If you are unhappy you have three options
1)quit
2)accept it and move on
3)whine about it |
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mikeledray
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
Posts: 17943
Location: http://www.partytimephotobooth.net
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:53 am
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| kropewnicki wrote: | | kropewnicki wrote: | | What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
The Original Posters question was if you object to USA policies do you object to paying the IRS directly?
My point was, if you submit your images to SS you pay the IRS indirectly through the taxes on profits of SS and the salaries paid to the 60+ employees of SS.
If you are unhappy you have three options
1)quit
2)accept it and move on
3)whine about it |
LOL
like there is Not Enough of That going on here!
LOL |
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mikeledray
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
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Location: http://www.partytimephotobooth.net
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makalu
Joined: 15 Dec 2005
Posts: 231
Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:07 am
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| kropewnicki wrote: | | 3)whine about it |
That's me, Angry and whining :] |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 3452
Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:17 am
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| kropewnicki wrote: | | kropewnicki wrote: | | What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
The Original Posters question was if you object to USA policies do you object to paying the IRS directly?
My point was, if you submit your images to SS you pay the IRS indirectly through the taxes on profits of SS and the salaries paid to the 60+ employees of SS.
If you are unhappy you have three options
1)quit
2)accept it and move on
3)whine about it |
I hope you will have 30% less when signing in with some European agency and paying double tax... One for USA and other for that EU country... There is where this 'double-tax evasion treaty' brings my earnings.
So, Yes I will whine and I will consult Experts who may better know about this issue.
Playing proud Americans is not what you should do in this moment due to that USA IRS is taxing authors who are NOT AMERICANS and they use US Companies AS CHANNELS for distribution of thir works.
Also, You aren't aware that when you are double-taxed you pay twice tax than you should.
So, you say it is correct that you as US CITIZEN selling through agency in Croatia pay 40% tax there and additional 30% tax in USA?
And you will do one of this:
1)quit
2)accept it and move on
3)whine about it
Then you are quite not focused...
;-)
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rudyumans
Joined: 19 Aug 2008
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Location: www.businesshelpforyou.org www.rudyumans.com
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:18 am
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| makalu wrote: | | kropewnicki wrote: | | What about the fact the SS is a US company, and pays taxes to the IRS? |
That's quite logical. Everyone's profits should be taxed in the country of residence. USA is probably the only country that tries to directly put hands on foreigners' profits. |
There are many countries that do this. It is like exporting money. Ever tried to export money from a certain South American country for instance? There are countries where it is not even possible unless you have a relative living in that country who can transfer money to a relative living outside that country. |
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evaners
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 6601
Location: NO! We aren't there yet!
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:19 am
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As a US citizen let me say this; personally, I've never liked the idea of collecting taxes on income earned. There's no logic to it. If I'm clever/sneaky/lucky enough to be successful, I shouldn't be punished for it.
I prefer a system that collects taxes on consumption. If I spend money, I pay a sales/use/service tax. If I keep all my money under my mattress I don't any tax on it.
Unfortunately, depending on which state you live in, you get hit with income AND sales/use taxes. So they take your money both coming in and going out.
IMO, the IRS should simply be abolished and a new agency started from scratch. |
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thegame
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
Posts: 122
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:20 am
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What about this theory: Legally we all are not selling anything, SS does it for us, we are just contributers and receiving commissions. What do you think?
And why do we have to proof we are not US, shouldn't IRS proof we are? You are unguilty until they proof the opposite, isn't it like that in a democracy.
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mikeledray
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
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Location: http://www.partytimephotobooth.net
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:25 am
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| makalu wrote: | How do you people feel about IRS putting their hands on your money?
Taking into account:
- US military invasions (Iraq etc)
- excessive military spending
- US anti environmental policy (no ratification of Kyoto protocol)
...I'm not OK with supporting this with my funds :/ |
Here is a Phone, Call Obama and tell him you want your REPERATIONS!
a rotary telephone from 1969
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-30448867-a-rotary-telephone-from.html |
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rudyumans
Joined: 19 Aug 2008
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Location: www.businesshelpforyou.org www.rudyumans.com
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:35 am
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| milinz wrote: |
Also, You aren't aware that when you are double-taxed you pay twice tax than you should.
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In line of my post above, if someone is double taxed, the taxes in his/her country are like "import" taxes. (Money is a commodity). So, don't blame the US for this. We are talking about revenue generated in the US after all. In my opinion, the "unfairness" of all this would be on the receiving side. |
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