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enjoylife25


Joined: 09 May 2006
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:31 am     Reply with quote

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d300.htm
xtuv


Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Location: Netherlands

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:37 am     Reply with quote

or check it out on a decent site like Dpreview

Also dont forget the Fullframe D3
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:20 am     Reply with quote

I'll have to make sure I check it out.
jaanster


Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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Location: Estonia

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:21 am     Reply with quote

Why does it have to be so expensive in Europe?

Price (body only)
• US: $ 1799
• UK: £ 1299
• EU: € 1980

1980 EUR= 2679.93 USD

Like where's the sense in that? Well, I can only hope that D200's price tag will drop significally.
debljames


Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:10 am     Reply with quote

I figured as much. I just bought my D200 8 months ago. I won't be upgrading anytime soon.
jps


Joined: 08 Feb 2007
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Location: Denmark

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:11 am     Reply with quote

Im tempted.
My old d 50 is beginning to sound like a russian panzer.

Full frame.. With the d3. Im not sure it will be an advantage. But everybody praises it.

Makes the wideangels wider and my macro shorter.

Or have I misunderstood something.

What happens to sharpness and details of fx macrophotos when they are spread over the double number of pixels?
debljames


Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:15 am     Reply with quote

I thought I read somewhere that you have to have completely different lenses for a full frame sensor. Is that right or wrong? Anyone know?
rbstevens


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:21 am     Reply with quote

debljames wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that you have to have completely different lenses for a full frame sensor. Is that right or wrong? Anyone know?


Generally yes (your 35mm film camera lenses are full frame and will work on the full frame D3), but I think I read the D3 will automatically make the 1.5 crop if you attach one of the DX lenses.


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jps


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:27 am     Reply with quote

well, I hope not completely new. They would work wont they?
So its just recalculating everything by 1,5?

I guess thats the way it goes in the future. Some say we will end with full frame and 25 m pix.

Considering the development of earlier times larger film formats, i think digital sensors may move that way also.

Imagine an ajustable tip-over sensor to capture unlimited DOF!
lilcrazyfuzzy


Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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Location: Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:22 pm     Reply with quote

jps wrote:
well, I hope not completely new. They would work wont they?
So its just recalculating everything by 1,5?

I guess thats the way it goes in the future. Some say we will end with full frame and 25 m pix.

Considering the development of earlier times larger film formats, i think digital sensors may move that way also.

Imagine an ajustable tip-over sensor to capture unlimited DOF!


as rbstevens said, you can use DX lenses with the D3
lilcrazyfuzzy


Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Posts: 9926
Location: Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:23 pm     Reply with quote

jaanster wrote:
Why does it have to be so expensive in Europe?

Price (body only)
• US: $ 1799
• UK: £ 1299
• EU: € 1980

1980 EUR= 2679.93 USD

Like where's the sense in that? Well, I can only hope that D200's price tag will drop significally.


because...we are richer? hahahaha no just kidding
Really, no idea, but If I decide to buy it then i'll make the trip to NY and buy that and a lens ;)
jps


Joined: 08 Feb 2007
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Location: Denmark

Post Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:51 pm     Reply with quote

Simply because the American market is important to hold. Then they dump them there and let the rich Europeans pay for the difference.

supply and demand... and holding market shares and reputation on a mainstream marked.
bluesky


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 1235
Location: Madrid, Spain

Post Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:15 am     Reply with quote

lilcrazyfuzzy wrote:
If I decide to buy it then i'll make the trip to NY and buy that and a lens ;)

Any chance you'll be going to NY before Lisbon? Can I put an order for a canon lens whilst you're there? you add your percentage, whatever, I'll still be paying less than over here...
lilcrazyfuzzy


Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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Location: Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany

Post Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:49 am     Reply with quote

bluesky wrote:
lilcrazyfuzzy wrote:
If I decide to buy it then i'll make the trip to NY and buy that and a lens ;)

Any chance you'll be going to NY before Lisbon? Can I put an order for a canon lens whilst you're there? you add your percentage, whatever, I'll still be paying less than over here...


no way, no trip before lisbon ;)
tomlutz


Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 9

Post Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:06 pm     Reply with quote

jps wrote:
Im tempted.
My old d 50 is beginning to sound like a russian panzer.

Full frame.. With the d3. Im not sure it will be an advantage. But everybody praises it.

Makes the wideangels wider and my macro shorter.

Or have I misunderstood something.

What happens to sharpness and details of fx macrophotos when they are spread over the double number of pixels?


I think you are right, JPS, to be concerned about the FX design for nature photography (like your awesome butterflies!) Thomas Hogan talks a bit about the new cameras, pixel density and similar concerns here:

http://www.bythom.com/D3comments1.htm

I would be happy with the D300!!
 
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